Rifleman Archive

How about looking over this thread .......min/max damage should still be HIGHER than a laser rifle.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=7820

Holocron- I believe your developer or who ever said he wouldn't mind increasing the damage of our T21's as well.

How about it?

Maybe lower HAM costs a bit plz plz :/ atleast maybe for master rifleman ? or something

I am not a rifleman and I don't really followed all the discussions (of course I read every dev reply so I have an idea of what is going on)...but the major lesson everybody should understand is that if we use logic and facts the devs are persuated!

I hope that all forum participants would learn their lesson and start making good post!

Manogr

Huzzah!!!

"So I guess I should break out my abacus for the TKA discussion? "

u mean on how TKA's toughness and damage/sec is way better than any other melee profession? yeap, start on it =). but dont' worry, other prof are already doing good comparisons on the obvious imbalance.

anyway, since you guys lowered the damage/speed of the T21, doesn't it make sense to lower the Ham cost as well (keep the HAM/sec the same as before...)

The T21 was originally intended to be fired once every 8-9 secs.. and the HAM cost reflects that...

right now its speed is 5.5-6.5 but its HAM is still significantly high.. lowering it by 33%-50% would be great, especially considering that mind cannot be healed (double edged sword... but thats a lot of downtime)

Thanks for listening to us.

Its a step, a small small small SMALL **edit** step in the right direction, FINALLY!!!

Devs, hello ... anyone home? You guys nerfed the one positive thing Riflemen have to look forward to. Half our skills are broken anyways, and other classes are worse off than us, broken that is.

Look, try this... take a pistoleer, carbineer, rifleman, hell even a bountyhunter. Line them up evenly, and have them shoot at targets that progress to go farther and farther out. Whats the difference? NONE!!! THATS THE FRIGGIN PROBLEM!!!!! Not the DPS, not the "its the inside min to max dmg thats the issue"

Jesus, SOE, just friggin pay me half what you pay the devs and ill fix 75% of your outstanding issues in a weeks time!

Seriously this was the worse nerf! I just got a T21 YESTERDAY!!!!! And now its crap! Bunk that ill just sit out and let the pistoleer's and bountyhunters run all over me ... im used to it now!

At least they admitted that a part of their reasoning is flawed. Hmmm ... I wonder when they figure out the REST of their reasoning is like that eh?

-PO'd Sniper ... well, not a sniper now, just a guy that has a stick. Might as well make it into a broom...

That's a great step. I am glad you are going to put the AR3 rating back. It makes the T21 usable again. As for damage...I would say most Rifleman feel this way:

Keep the base max damage at 300 and make sure the attack speed stays in the 6 second range

OR

Give us back the original base damage and slow the weapon down to 8 seconds. I would prefer the challenge of limiting my rate of fire and testing my aiming skills. But that's just me.

Still...thank you for listening. It's good to know we have an open line of communication.

YAY! Thank you! Please dont change you mind about it later!

Going to have to use the /hex (persons name) if any dev or somebody changes their mind about this change hehehehe.

Raph, please look over the armor piercing system, since that seems to be the real root of the problem. As I said in another thread, armor piercing should work not as a multiplier vs lesser armored targets (vs the APV of the gun), but as a divisor against better amored targets.

That should fix a lot of things across the board, and make commandos a bit happier. Balance everyone 'up' to pistoleerishness, don't nerf them down to us

Holo,

How bout posting the new stats on the T-21? Just so we have the propsted final version all in front of us.

And a pony! I want a pony!

Arjun,

I hope you don't mind waiting until after the DE's get some of the same kind of 'love' that Holocron has lavished upon the CH's, with regard to info and fixes.

/sigh


Holocron.....

Please? How hard and long do DE's have to scream to get the kind of reply that actually contains in-depth, practical feedback on the state of their (my) profession?

I'm getting discouraged heavily by the appearance that this entire profession's issue are being ignored wholesale. The reason for my lack of faith?

The answer you gave the CH's detailing a lot of real, serious items. I'm not saying they didn't deserve that kind of reply. I only wonder over how us lowly DEs will be able to get some similar attention (in addition to every other profession).

I know you said you can't respond to every post. (duh!)

But...you can write a nice long post that addresses the top issues, as I've seen for the CH's.

Creature Handler Issues - Designer Responses
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=46180#M46180


I think we DEs (widely accepted as one of the most neglected and ignored professions in the game) haveall waited long enough...

/bow

Respectfully,

Thank you for listening to us, Holo, and admitting that you didn't take everything into account. Please, however, to pay attention to these factors in the future instead of forcing us to make such thought out arguments.