Rifleman Archive

im very glad to see that im not the only person that is upset about the rifle having the same range as a pistol... and yes we should get our ass kicked at close range but if anyone has gone prone and tried to get a headshot off without aiming...if ur like me in game it 90% of the time fails...that shouldnt be number one and number 2 by the time u relocate they are on ur butt...kicking it. the whole reason i wanted the rifle was cause i thought i had a range advantage but i miss at max range and it takes me forever to reposition...when i have my pistol out i get more shots and more hit...AT RANGE WHICH IS JUST WRONG.... i just hope that the programers are going to make some type of fix because pistols shouldnt be able to shoot at mine max range and hit me 8 time while im prone shooting 2 shots....also i have mind shot and its still no great improvement...something needs to get changed in the ranges....

i am going doctor/rifleman. i don't plan on doing solo pvp unless i am forced to. my goal is to take out the other combat medics and doctors while they are busy heaing damage.

they use their mind pool to heal, after a few heals they can be halfway down. the doc is gone, now the rest of your group can clean up.

i don't understand why everything has to be one on one. and being a doctor i can buff stats up to 2k now. it takes more time for pistols or carbines to do that much damage before i can take out 1k or less mind.

so if you see me running around in a group doing pvp, assume they are buffed.

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i do agree though, that will be the main form of action. It depends though on how many rifleman you have per team. I.e. if it was 4 rifle against 3 rifle. you would have 3 v 3 with the one by himself taking out the docs. But dont forget docs will generally have higher mind pools that other so you have to be careful.

But like many have said, we will not know yet, for sometime i would guess how this really will work. Myself im finally getting some technqies together that seem to be starting to work for me. So we shall see what we shall see.

Also, consider this, hitting mind pool also cost you mindo pool to use, so it is not always a case of going crazy with mindpool targets etc..

Myself i am going Rifleman Squad Leader i have decided, becuase 1, i love rifleman and 2 i cant wait to be the Squad LEader with all those cool skills, and which the Rifleman, which should be the least involved really in PvP looking over all the action like a General, unreal, cant wait, now all i need is 30k combat XP

One word "Tusken Raider" get a tusken raider rifle (mine does 70-90 damage), they give you a huge bonus to hit at very long ranges as oppsed to a normal rifle. when your CDEF is -50 to hit, your tusken rifle is +15 or more. IT is made to snipe, but sucks bad at close range. Attach a scope and you have a death dealing machine at long range.

Rifles have better hit chances at long range than pistols or carbines, that is why you want a rifle. Take time to read the weapon stats.

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They will never give the Rifle more range. They will never lower the range of carbines and pistols.

It costs the exact same amount of points to train in pistols as it does to train in rifles. Each has their own advantages and disadvantages. Giving one a HUGE benefit over the other, like max range, would break the system. If you can't see that, you're dumb, sorry.

The point is a pistol should shouldn't be able to snipe. Its plain fact. Carbines should be inacurate snipers and rifle=sniper. There is no defence for this. A fast firring sniper that is acurate is just cutting into our profession which is not balancing the game at all. Giving rifles bigger range is good for us but think of the brawlers who are desperatly trying to catch us. While we run around kitting them with mindshots and headshots. They'd cry nerf. So decrease the acuracy for pistols by ALOT at long range.

It sounds to me like you're complaining that pistols can hit effectively at the same range as rifles, not necessarily that there should be a range that rifles can shoot but pistols and carbines can't even fire. If this is so, let me assure you it's a pistol thing. I can easily get down to -50 to hit while kneeling with my carbine at 55-60m, and it shows. I don't notice my pistol hunting partner missing nearly that much while standing at that range.

Having a max range difference is not going to be good for this game. No matter what range you start firing at, it's a balance point to this game that they should be able to try to return fire and hope to get lucky. If they're "getting lucky" too often, then that's a bug in the system, and should be tested and reported. But the system to support it is there, and it's supposed to work like that -- it's called the ideal range.

I'm a pistoleer, and this crap about pistols being just as accurate at range as rifles is just that, crap.

I will miss like crazy at 64 meters with a pistol and I have to get into point blank range to use my best special moves, Melee Pistol Defense and Point Blank Shot. All the Body Shots were nerfed, Body Shot 3 does on average 300 dmg and the health pool is easily healed. If I want to do ANY good dmg, it has to be up close.

Rifleman have nothing to complain about. You hit mind pool, which cannot be healed in combat. Your weapons can penetrate armor, pistols cannot. You have access to a 500+ dmg weapon!! You can DEATH BLOW at range, something no other profession can do!

My suggestion to you Rifleman would be to **edit** and don't draw attention to yourself before people start calling for a nerf on you.

So what is the point of using a rifle if mr pistol can hit you as well as you can hit him at max range? Next lets deal with the Underhand Shot from the BH line. You lie prone, line up your shot and get knocked on your back and then the fight is over...rifleman may be good in PVE but is seriously hurting in PVP. What is the point? Most of the PVP takes place in cities, where rifles suck... When have you ever seen an incapped player incapped long enough for Mr rifle to either get there for the DB or use sniping shot if he has it? o if you want to hunt mobs all day then use the rifle, if you want to hunt other players, make sure your arent fighting a BH, who supposedly had US nerfed recently...but not really, just ask one if there has been a change in the performance of US. Its too bad that this game is turning into the BH/CH Bandwagon. Really...it showed promise early on.

Going from someone training pistol to someone taking the rifle path I can really say that shooting at long range with a pistol sucks. It is bad times all around, constant whiff. I change to even a bad rifle and if a target is stuck at range for some reason (engaged) then it's dead on accurate. Tho, I haven't been playing too long so things may be much different in the mid-high rank areas.

For rifles having close range problems, what about a Spraystick?

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It's rifle cert and it looks like a pretty nice weapon for in-city engagements or when someone is rushing in for a "friendly" conversation. The long end pretty bad but it fires very quickly, themid range is nice and the shortmod isn't too heavy. It's no pistol but is it a viable alternative?

Anyone who says the rifle sucks in PvP is a moron who has never been in PvP.

Rifle targets mind, which cannot be healed. If you incapp a player with a mind shot, he isn't gettting up for a LOOOOOONG time. Plenty of time to DB him from range (which only a rifleman can do).

Rifles penetrate armor, pistols do not. You don't see a big advantage there?

And pistols cannot snipe, I whiff like mad past 50 meters, I'll miss 3 out of 5 shots easily. And a pistoleer cannot target mind with a pistol, only a Bounty Hunter can.

Rifles are the best PvP ranged weapon, any experienced PvP player will tell you that.