Rifleman Archive
Thread: Sigh.. I give up.
If I hear one more person use that pointless pure BS arguement about how since they spend more skill points on professions they don't even use afterwards, and EVERY other combat class should be treated like 2nd class citizens to the all powerful BH and commando gods, I swear to god i'm going to make a petition to reach though peoples monitors and beat some sense into them.
If you go by that logic, and a BH or commando is going to automatacilly win by default because they spent the points, then why the ding dong **** did SOE even bother putting in 7 other combat classes (not counting combat medic since it's more meds then a weapon) for us to pick from hm?
And if we spend all our points to master marksmen then say riflemen pisoleer and carbineer should we still be outclassed? Or have the new magic ability to use all 3 at once and smash those annoying overpowered BH's? After all we spent more points then didn't we?
FFS will someone finally bury that dead horse, it's getting old hearing this arguement and it wasn't any more valid now then it was then.
Centurion81 wrote:
Mmmmman snipercan hit an person in the head (if we aim carefully) from 62 meters with an sniper rifle... and an bounty hunter can hit us in the EYE from 62 meters with an pistol...
Haha, so true. Like I posted a while ago, "the best rifleman is a bounty hunter".
In PvP we are more than useless because we incap ourselves before we can kill someone, let alone that someone being a BH that attacks our mind pool with no damage to his own. We give ourselves unhealable damage for the glorious ability to hit for unhealable damage. That and DB'ing from a distance is what makes us unique. Only problem is that BH's hit for the great unhealable bar as well only they can heal all the costs it takes. The only way to beat a BH in pvp as a rifleman is to group with a carbineer. If the BH is shooting you his action bar will kill him, if he's shooting the carbineer you get in some shots before death ^_^
Oh and guess what they use all their skills. Wow good for them lets use that as an excuse for all the greatness they can achieve. Guess what I"m going to use all my skills too!! Only instead of it all being spent on 1 prof I"m going to become a slicer, and have master marksman since it only requires carbine spec at that point, and probably master medic. So since we spent equal amounts of skills we should be fairly even right? Nope they still overpower us. But since we are the great ranged attackers we should beat them consistently from the 55-64 meter range right? Nope they can still shoot us in the eye while we're having trouble hitting their head. But they still had a harder time grinding then we did, after all they need to master 2 whole professions! I have master marksman, I got it since I wanted smuggler and 1 more tier was nothing to me, I have 3/0/3/3 scout and I never even really tried to get that. I just made camps to heal while I solo and skinned animals so I could make camps, and why not. That means that I am basically all the requirements thata BH requires to get BH yet I chose rifleman because I love sniping. Should I be made unusable in PvP even though I have everything a BH could need plus a bigger gun? Well I am so I guess the dev's answered that question.
The point of skill requirements is moot since mastering a starter profession can be done in like 2 days of semi hardcore gaming with friends. And getting app xp is easier then hell to cheat if you need to. Just have a friend learn and forget some scout skills or pistol skills and go to dathomir, you can teach him like once every 4 minutes probably.
By that time I'm REALLY irritated. After a few more attempts, and a few more deaths, I just get SOO mad I just /q out, and now im typing this in the most pissed mood I have ever been in. That's right, I pay 13 bucks a month to get annoyed to a homocidal rage. I'm going to bed now. Thanks SWG, I love you so much.
Here's the last half of my message, it got cut off for some reason.
Rifleman is no good for pvp until you get sniping up to lvl 4. Unless your target decides to sit at long range and let you headshot him a few times you will not get any kills. Once you get sniping to lvl 4 you will be able to hit your target, while you run or whenthe targetis at point blank. Until then do your pvp with groups so you are not the main target.
I am 2 skills from master rifleman and I enjoy wiping out groups in pvp, I usually killincap 4 and deathblow way more in any pvp fights (sniper shot rules 
) . I am on bria so I dont have the mighty t21 either.
I've actually switched to a DLT20a. T21 sucks for PvP. Do a few shots and you're half dead yourself. DLT20a can still hit for 200+ damage on a Headshot3 and uses up much, much less mind pool.
Tell you one thing though, people say to not let a Commando within 20m? Horse**edit**. I got hit for 926 and 530 in PvP by a Commando at about 50m away. Their SPECIAL ATTACKS require 20m range, their normal hits can go from 64 meters and they still hit for almost 1000 damage in PvP.
I agree with the above post. What exactly is the purpose of a combat elite class? Why would the devs create classes that clearly aren't supposed to be used in pvp? Eye shot is hilarious to watch. If rifleman are supposed to be highly accurate ranged attackers (he clears his throat in utter mocking of this illusion) why would a running BH be able to squeeze off highly devestating attacks with extremely more accuracy from the same distance?
Look the crap here is unbalanced, hence everyone running off to be a commando now. Just like everyone was running off to be a BH last week. Just like everyone was running off to be a pistoleer at release. NOTE: No one is running off to be a rifleman. The specials just aren't that "special." Conceal shot needs to be our special. I don't care if they lower damage outputs, but for the love of Hesus, don't bother giving us the ability to conceal ourselves only to be a glowing red dot on everyone else's screen. What a joke.
I still have my rifleman points, only because I've not earned enough XP in the other classes. I'm outta this profession and don't plan to come back without some major changes. Squad Leader looks better all the time. At least I could aid my fellow Bounty Hunter and Commando and Pistoleer band wagooneers.
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