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Thread: Fear the Nerf warning from a new rifleman and current CH

taloncard
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:08 pm
#14

ROFL

Ya know I think I like this forum many like minded people

Ya I will have some.

Pretzles anyone ?




Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


beamstalk
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:27 pm
#15






shadowlith wrote:

*grabs popcorn and sits down*


Anyone want some?









Kel-jun advance Strafes Shadow for 8000 points of damage.


Damn rebel taking my popcorn.




Kel-jun
Master Rifleman
Dark Blade - PA
Flurry
Thrawn caught his eye; and to Pellaeon's astonishment, the Grand Admiral smiled. "But," he whispered, "it was so artistically done."
shadowlith
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:30 pm
#16

You have it all wrong with this:







beamstalk wrote:


Kel-jun advance Strafes Shadow for 8000 points of damage.


Damn rebel taking my popcorn.





Kel-jun uses Advanced Strafe on you for 8000 points of damage, but you block it.


You have been incapacitated.


THATS how it should look.






Like the Pheonix, he shall rise from the fire
And be born a new.

Flames will rain down upon all that oppose him
And when the embers cool

None will be left standing.

::The A'rien 1/2 of Seniph Gales::


beamstalk
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:30 pm
#17






shadowlith wrote:

You have it all wrong with this:








beamstalk wrote:


Kel-jun advance Strafes Shadow for 8000 points of damage.


Damn rebel taking my popcorn.





Kel-jun uses Advanced Strafe on you for 8000 points of damage, but you block it.


You have been incapacitated.


THATS how it should look.








heh true...



Kel-jun
Master Rifleman
Dark Blade - PA
Flurry
Thrawn caught his eye; and to Pellaeon's astonishment, the Grand Admiral smiled. "But," he whispered, "it was so artistically done."
Whatnot
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:38 pm
#18









Barb-Wire wrote:



I edited 90% of this to keep it a reasonable length -- Whatnot



im really not trying to flame you guys just pointing out some facts about the situation with getting all emotional over it. CH is waaaay better and much more interesting to play now post "nerf" than it was when all it took was 3200 a graul mauler and the command attack and followme trained.


Message Edited by Barb-Wire on 02-24-2004 12:14 PM





Nor am I trying to flame you.


Fact: The original poster, rightly or wrongly, is "warning" the rifle community about the ramifications of SOE "balancing" basedupon his ownobservation ofprevious "balances" he experiencedin the CH profession. That's pretty much it.


All the material about how to utilize pets, BE pet problems, accusations of "trolling", "crying" and "whining", the infamous dabbler 3/2/0/0 Graul Maulerproblem and the lack of his doing "proper" board research -- as defined by you -- are all your additions.Your points areinteresting; I agree with some, and disagree with others. My point was -- and continues to be -- that through your additionalcontributions you have both insulted the original poster and placed him on the defensive by tacitly characterizing him as the antithesis to all the elements of your diatribe on thecare and feedingof the CH profession.


Steppencat
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:45 pm
#19

The only problem is people's expectations. We can argue till we're blue in the face how CH should be, how rifleman should be. But what's that going to get us. A lot of different opinions, most of which won't amount to anything. Not to mention a lot of emotions going around.


I've been seeing posts like this since pretty much launch day, and as you can see from my sig, I've been through a few of those nerfed professions.


All I can say is, I don't understand what the problem is. I have no expectations, I just do what I can. And even as a 0000 rifleman with 4311 CH skills, I'm still able to solo 85% of the content in game. The content I can't solo I SHOULDN'T be able to solo, and that's fine by me. That's what groups are for.


I think we really all just need to learn to roll with punches and more importantly, not all hope to be superhuman, and enjoy what we have. I'm certainly having fun, even after each nerf.


Worst case scenario? You have to learn a new style of play. So you gained from it.


Not trying to flame in anyway, just explain why I'm enjoying the game, nerfs and all
taloncard
Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:12 pm
#20







Whatnot wrote:















Nor am I trying to flame you.


Fact: The original poster, rightly or wrongly, is "warning" the rifle community about the ramifications of SOE "balancing" basedupon his ownobservation ofprevious "balances" he experiencedin the CH profession. That's pretty much it.


All the material about how to utilize pets, BE pet problems, accusations of "trolling", "crying" and "whining", the infamous dabbler 3/2/0/0 Graul Maulerproblem and the lack of his doing "proper" board research -- as defined by you -- are all your additions.Your points areinteresting; I agree with some, and disagree with others. My point was -- and continues to be -- that through your additionalcontributions you have both insulted the original poster and placed him on the defensive by tacitly characterizing him as the antithesis to all the elements of your diatribe on thecare and feedingof the CH profession.








I sense...... a disterbance in the boards


A presence I have not felt since.........


Could it be maturaity???!?!??!?!?!?!?


Thanks What-not





Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


Wabit
Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:34 pm
#21






taloncard wrote:
Hey all
New to the rifleman forum and was reading Barb-wire's post. srtange she has been trolling the CH forum lately too say ing we weren't nerfed along with Denzib (warning if you see this troll too)

...snip...




can i be called a troll too???? i say basicaly the the same thing Barb Does


i'll not bring CH items here, cause this is the rifleman forum... but i am MCH/MRifle, have been for awhile now... when i first started reading her posts months ago, i thought she was full of *self Edit*... but before i said anything i tried out what she claimed to be able to solo (with pets)... i died alot at first, but could see how it could be done, i just had to fill in the missing blanks...


there is nothing in this game that can't be solo'd you just need the correct template (i count CH as solo, sorry its how i spent my SP) and tactics...


welcome to the rifleman forum ... we are usually a pretty nice bunch of folks...


Wabit



I can just see a "Wait for the Combat Revamp" and "Wait for the Smuggler Revamp" quote all rolled into one.
"Wait for the Smuggbat Revamp"
Smuggbat, I like that
Wabit
Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:04 pm
#22






Barb-Wire wrote:

i dare you to name ONE Thing that changed with CH that was for the worse. i dont think you or the original poster can.






can i play???


Wabit



I can just see a "Wait for the Combat Revamp" and "Wait for the Smuggler Revamp" quote all rolled into one.
"Wait for the Smuggbat Revamp"
Smuggbat, I like that
PyscoJuggalo
Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:41 pm
#23

In defence of Barb, she always adds good insight and is a pillar member of the rifleperson boards. She has always been helpful to newer riflepersons and is a cool calm head.


-My CH views are that currently it is ineffective in PVP. Maybe thecreature special commands are borked, maybe they overnerfed the profession, or maybe people are not using the profession to it's full skill-I don't know.


-About the "Balance". How can they balance combat in Publish 8 when they just fixed carbines? When publish 7 goes through people are going to realize what AOE dizzy and a AOE Posture Change down can do. I think Sony should first fix all the professions' specials before they balance regaurding PVP. I don't know, I could be wrong. Maybe Publish 8 will happen the combat system will be near perfect and you will see me post crap like"I was wrong, I love you Devs" & Maybe I'm right and I will be posting crap like "The whole reason I'm sticking around is to watch you fail dev's". Either way I'll be happy 1'st senerio I love Star Wars, 2'nd senerio I have some sadistic tendancies.


I just think SOE does some stupid things and instead of ranting about them now I'll just Shut the hell up.



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Barb-Wire
Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:10 am
#24



Whatnot wrote:edit...



in reference your last post.

he came in here making wild claims without any substantiation, called me a troll etc. shall i just sit back and take it in efforts of "playing nice"??

i am not the one that brought CH issues into the rifle forums... i have merely used the balance and nerfs that CH has gone through and illustrated the general mentality of those that CONSTANTLY claim CH is broken have shown to be the root of their complaints. my bet is that he hasnt played the game long enough to even remember these issues. regardless do not for a second think that i am for nerfing CH into uselessness. however if something in CH or RIFLE is out of wack such as rifle defenses not working properly i will be amongst that those that want it fixed.

i am sorry but i just do not think that ANY profession having a uber facet to it is in anyway good for the game. all the changes in CH removed such things. i dare you to name ONE Thing that changed with CH that was for the worse. i dont think you or the original poster can.

my position in regards to CH and rifle is to maintain both professions at a level of power that makes sense in game overall when compaired to the other skills, the average player, and the monsters that we hunt, i seldom if ever comment on PVP except in cases where a "balance/nerf" in PVP affects PVE in a negative fashion. i want both professions to be challenging and involving for as many of us as possible. for the original poster or anyone else to make ridiculous claims that CH is useless and worthless or has been nerfed to such status is patently false, inflamatory, borderline on trollish, and does neither the rifle or CH professions any good to draw those comparisons.



Created Account July 2003 - Canceled account Nov 2005. The NGE made me do it.
Barb Wire
Former Dark Force Wielder
Ex-Imperial Navy
taloncard
Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:10 am
#25

Hey all
New to the rifleman forum and was reading Barb-wire's post. srtange she has been trolling the CH forum lately too say ing we weren't nerfed along with Denzib (warning if you see this troll too)

what we were told about the super Nerf to CH is it was the first profession "balanced" as part of the combat revamping and that all other combat professions would soon be "balanced".

All I can say is if they truly "balance" the other combat professions as well as CH, be prepared for you mission times to double/triple and your PvP to go on forever till someone actually dies.

I would strongly encourage everyone who has a love of this profession to follow your corespondents advice and post here
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_concept&message.id=19

if you have a chance to save this profession do it.

Personally As a new rifleman (4/2/0/3)I am greatly enjoying the benefits of it, and greatly looking forward to that new rifle.




Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


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