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Thread: More Armor Piercing Information: We're More Screwed Than We Thought

Vlamr
Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:15 am
#14

Does anyone know what the exact calculation to determine damage in PvP. Specifically with headshot2 or 3. I am seeing all these mismatched calculations. With the AP not being part of the calculation I am unsure how to calculate the actual dmg. Anyone have the formulas?



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Seflyn
Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:02 pm
#15






VolstedGridban wrote:

Just for laughs, Seflyn, I ran the numbers. For you to shoot a no-armor critter with a Laser Rifle and get NO damage multiplier at all (Floaty Damage = Base Damage), that's the same thing as having 34% Energy Resistance.

So "Vulnerable" in this specific case means "34% Energy Resistance."

If you'd been using a T21, "vulnerable" would have meant "48.8% Energy Resistance."

Neat, huh?




While Ibelieve you're right about it not being no resist that bugs AP, and is in fact whenthe target isvulnerable, I don't understand why then AP does notworkonplayers wearing no armour.


I think it's quite clear now that AP not doing bonus damage on a vulnerable mob is a bug.




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jnat
Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:49 pm
#16

IN PVE :AP works everytime EXEPT when a mob is vulnerable to what you shooting it with, then the AP bonus vanish, seems a weel known bug now.


IN PVP : AP DOESNT WORK.



as simple as that.


If your AP doesnt work for you in PVE we obviously not playing the same game, or maybe get rid of your AP0 DTL20, I dont know.


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Fred_Skinner
Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:08 pm
#17

ok, I shoot tabage and krahbu all the time with my T-21 (a bit much but sometimes I'm in a hurry)


Floaties over the Krahbu (light armour) are multiplied vs combat chat.
Floaties over the Tabage (no armour) are not.


Resists are the same and they are similar HAM. I think the "no armour" bit is happining in PvE too. Most of the big stuff has at least a little armour. Has anyone tried this on big, no-armour stuff?




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vaalenko
Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:50 am
#18

Aldeon, any update on this issue?



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VolstedGridban
Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:22 am
#19


Fred_Skinner wrote:
ok, I shoot tabage and krahbu all the time with my T-21 (a bit much but sometimes I'm in a hurry)

Floaties over the Krahbu (light armour) are multiplied vs combat chat.
Floaties over the Tabage (no armour) are not.

Resists are the same and they are similar HAM. I think the "no armour" bit is happining in PvE too. Most of the big stuff has at least a little armour. Has anyone tried this on big, no-armour stuff?




Stats for the tabage:

http://www.erols.com/aburner/swg017.gif

Based on this, the Base Damage from shooting a Tabage with a T21 should be multiplied by an RAF of 1.660 to give you the Floaty Damage.

Test data:

http://www.erols.com/aburner/swg016.jpg

Base Damage = 1915
Floaty Damage = 3179
3179/1915 = 1.660

Looks like it works to me.



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