Rifleman Archive
Thread: PvP strategies /tactics?
Xors wrote:
Only 2 guns are needed for PvP at master level riflemen
Laser rifle for unarmored tagets and a jawa ion rifle for armored targets. T-21 is optional but often is out damaged by Laser rifes (on our server at least)
A'rien
Umm... Most T21's and laser rifles have about the same DPS due to T21's higher min and lasers higher max. With damage mitigation though T21 is always the way to go. Jawa, well yeah, thats a no brainer. There are other good situational guns. Like high accuracy laser rifles. I'm also going to see if any of the other guns could be boosted to high accuracy at close range so you can hit them with status effects at close range.
i press buttons... seems to work ok... kinda like the old nintendo fighting games 
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Wabit
Not True. I can get a Laser on my server up near 800 easy without Krayting it. T-21's on Tarq cap around 670. Even against Mit 3, I'm still more likely to get the heavy shot in with my Laser. Now the new Disruptor on the other hand.....
Eaca wrote:
Umm... Most T21's and laser rifles have about the same DPS due to T21's higher min and lasers higher max. With damage mitigation though T21 is always the way to go. Jawa, well yeah, thats a no brainer. There are other good situational guns. Like high accuracy laser rifles. I'm also going to see if any of the other guns could be boosted to high accuracy at close range so you can hit them with status effects at close range.
shadowlith wrote:
Not True. I can get a Laser on my server up near 800 easy without Krayting it. T-21's on Tarq cap around 670. Even against Mit 3, I'm still more likely to get the heavy shot in with my Laser. Now the new Disruptor on the other hand.....
Message Edited by Eaca on 02-26-2004 01:09 AM
Sotaudi wrote:
The most useful tip I can give is going to sound condescending, but it is not. It is this. "If what you are doing is not working, try something else."
People get so locked into trying to find the "magic bullet" that will kill everything in one shot, and it just does not exist. Unlike with PvE, you cannot tell what resistances your opponent has. So, yes, a Jawa is usually the best choice for PvP against a composite armored opponent, and a T21 or Laser is usually best against somoene not wearing armor. But watch the damage you are doing. If their HAM bars are not moving much, your current strategy is not working.
As someone else pointed out, if you start doing headshots with the Jawa and their mind does not start dropping much, it probably means they have a Stun layered helmet on. Switch to random pool with Flushingshot1 or 2 or Strafeshot2. If that does not cause a lot of damage, switch to the T21 or Laser. If that still does not work, you may be in for a long haul. Pull the Jawa back out or go to the E11 (both of which have lower HAM costs) and continue, or stay with the T21 on autofire.
Do not get locked into a "this should be working" mentality, and stand there wasting your own HAM trying to make something work that they are obviously protected against.
seriously though, pvp fights are much faster than that, 3 eye shots or one KD dizzy and 2 unarmed hits, one flame cone, etc... this mix-and-match stuff only works on afk people
What I'd like to know is - what type of rifle are you using, and do you switch depending on who you are fighting? What attacks to you use? Which ones would you never use (I'm going to guess H3 since it's a mind hog)?
HARP00N wrote:
Sotaudi wrote:
The most useful tip I can give is going to sound condescending, but it is not. It is this. "If what you are doing is not working, try something else."
People get so locked into trying to find the "magic bullet" that will kill everything in one shot, and it just does not exist. Unlike with PvE, you cannot tell what resistances your opponent has. So, yes, a Jawa is usually the best choice for PvP against a composite armored opponent, and a T21 or Laser is usually best against somoene not wearing armor. But watch the damage you are doing. If their HAM bars are not moving much, your current strategy is not working.
As someone else pointed out, if you start doing headshots with the Jawa and their mind does not start dropping much, it probably means they have a Stun layered helmet on. Switch to random pool with Flushingshot1 or 2 or Strafeshot2. If that does not cause a lot of damage, switch to the T21 or Laser. If that still does not work, you may be in for a long haul. Pull the Jawa back out or go to the E11 (both of which have lower HAM costs) and continue, or stay with the T21 on autofire.
Do not get locked into a "this should be working" mentality, and stand there wasting your own HAM trying to make something work that they are obviously protected against.
seriously though, pvp fights are much faster than that, 3 eye shots or one KD dizzy and 2 unarmed hits, one flame cone, etc... this mix-and-match stuff only works on afk people
Only idiots PVP unbuffed and unarmored.