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Thread: DEV response to spraystick, Tusken rifle, and T21!!!

Tsimhnori
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:40 pm
#14

Giving Blast damage to rifleman would make commandos useless (even though they pretty much are already, no ap on the Launcher Pistol), only thing commando is good for right now is... well, Hunting.



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:02 pm
#15

T21 ws only blast for a few days and IMHO it should stay energy cause a blast rifle would be overpowered for the stuff that is sposed to be what commandos are made for taking out.


However the fact that within a week the T21 was changed from Energy to Blast and back to Energy does show just how full of **edit** old TH is with his responces to us idiots that play this game


The tuscan and the Spray stick are obviously sposed to be Kinetic and the fact that it has taken them this long to even start to see that is just silly


FYI the Tuscan uses Projectile barels and the Spray stick uses Chem dispersal Mechs so even the programers knew at one point that these guns where intended to do something aside from energy damage





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Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:31 pm
#16



the best stun damage weapon in the game


...is the geonosian sonic pistol, NOT the jawa. (a guy on my server has a sonic with 600 max damage!)

yes, if the t-21 were blast, it would be insane. turrets would fall in no time. one rifleman using one t-21 could take a turret faster than 5 commandos with 5 rocket launchers. no, that's wrong.

but yes, the tusken should be kinetic, and the spray should be acid. (not that it maters since the geo disruptor rifle is acid)



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PsychoticChipmunk
Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:40 am
#17

Anyone else find it pathetic that this fix has been stalled for so long we don't even remember what types of damage all our guns did? I honestly don't recall the T-21 being blast but that doesn't mean it wasn't blast. And justified or not if that's what it was that is what it should be. Tweak everything in the end based on that change if you must but for the love of god change it back to right.



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Thunderello
Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:52 am
#18

hehe he says its not productive to work on such minor things, so why are they revamping the crafting system when no one had a problem with it?



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CairnTrenor
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:03 am
#19

Could someoen explain why the Tusken rifle should be kinetic? I think energy is the correct damage type for it according to the movies.

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rrdwaveslr
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:25 am
#20

tusken rifles r somewhat equivalent to bowcasters, they shoot bolts, bolts do not explode or detonate into energy, they just penetrate or bounce of tus kenetic damage
DVader539
Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:20 pm
#21



Ciirybeccaskyr wrote:

T21 ws only blast for a few days and IMHO it should stay energy cause a blast rifle would be overpowered for the stuff that is sposed to be what commandos are made for taking out.

However the fact that within a week the T21 was changed from Energy to Blast and back to Energy does show just how full of **edit** old TH is with his responces to us idiots that play this game






Ah, OK. That was probably where I got it. Anyways, you are correct in saying it only undermines TH's excuse.



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Tsimhnori
Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:54 pm
#22

The Tusken Rifle should be kinetic because it was kinetic...



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Mot-Irujam
Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:16 pm
#23


Um, Cairn Trenor, watch the movies again. In the pod race in ep 1, The tusken rifle goes BANG! and the impact on the podracer it hits is PING! That's kinetic.... Also, the Tusken uses all projectile parts to make, not one energy part. The stupidity of the game team is the only reason the tusken is now Energy. I suspect they saw that they Tusken was effective against a wide range of Kinetic vulnerable and low resist critters, andsimply nerfed us.


In all the threads Ive seen in the rifleman boards, I have yet to see a dev post. The Correspondent posts, but I havent seen one Dev post. And frankly all devs do is spew bullpuckey rationalizations as to why theyve made the game suck so bad, so who cares. My favorite class, CH,was nerfed into oblivion because people thought it was too powerful. so I moved on to another class, Commando. Commando is now useless because people screamed for nerfs. I flame people with my most powerful attack, and they dont come CLOSE to dying. Spray someone with liquid thermite, and they should die fast and badly. Its just realistic. We pay the SP for it, we pay the massive XP for it, we friggen earned it. Commando has even SLOWER speeds than rifles. Know what my recycle speed is for a commando special is? over 10 seconds. Sometimes 12+ if I'm using a damage sliced flamer. And commando weps cant be powered up at all. But I dealt with it and got rifleman as a backup skill. Now Rifleman is my primary skill and I hate both. I spent just under a month leveling to master rifles. Anytime I get into PVP, I'm useless because 95% of the battles I get into, most of the people I fight are def stackers I cant hit EVER, or Combat medics that kill my mind in 20 seconds and render me useless for most of the fight.


As it stands now, Both Rifle and Commando are only good for hunting critters. Commando is good for doing mass damage when they get close, and Rifle is great for conceal sniping things that can chew me up.


On topic, The spraystick, in the books and comics, sprayed goo and webs. So it should be a restraint weapon realistically. If not, then acid is the thing they should go with. The T21 SHOULD be blast because its a heavy armor piercing light anti vehicular/heavy anti personnell rifle. For those that dont know, the actual T21 is based off a WW1 aircraft machinegun with a cooling sleeve on the barrel and a rifle buttstock and handgrip attached. Nothing about this setup says "light". I realize a Blast T21 wielding rifleman could take out a Turret faster than a commando, but WHO CARES? Hello? We're wielding a bloody armor piercing medium/heavy machinegun, not a goo sprayer! Which, realistically, should do more damage?




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Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:37 pm
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DVader539 wrote:





Ciirybeccaskyr wrote:

T21 ws only blast for a few days and IMHO it should stay energy cause a blast rifle would be overpowered for the stuff that is sposed to be what commandos are made for taking out.


However the fact that within a week the T21 was changed from Energy to Blast and back to Energy does show just how full of **edit** old TH is with his responces to us idiots that play this game








Ah, OK. That was probably where I got it. Anyways, you are correct in saying it only undermines TH's excuse.





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