Rifleman Archive
Thread: anyone actually have Krayt T21's?
rimalz
Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:58 am
#14
Dynastar wrote:
As a Weaponsmiths and a Rifleman, I personally wouldn't bother unless the tissues were atleast +60, and even then I'd consider Disruptors first. It all matters on the slice, and I'd really hate to waste 11 good tissues on a speed sliced weapon of any kind.
Agreed. Sets of 11 aren't nearly as uncommon as people think though, and if you hunt krayt often it seems less wasteful than if you're a tissue buyer.
Bermag
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:25 am
#15
I am using both a krayt T21 and a normal (good damage sliced) T21 and it is not a big difference. I think the krayt is 600 max dam and the normal is 535 max w/o powerup. I have used both when fighting Krayt and Elders. One thing however that make a difference is that I have a legendary stock with high accuracy on the Krayt T21 (range mod is +80) and I miss less often (however I hit ofen enough with the normal T21)
Base damage on Jawa and DRX6 is lower so it is worth more to enhance those instead of the T21 if you can't afford to use tissues for all your guns.
TheSatyr01
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:05 pm
#16
I'm sure I'm in the minority,but I'll take a speed slice over a damage slice any day. In the long run you'll do more damage with a speed slice...IMO.
OditeFosore
Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:56 am
#17
Well, had 2 made today. 1 with base tissues and 1 with +52 tissues. Used imp stocks and went to a great 12 point smith on Intrepid. Base stocked T21's on Intrepid are 408 max dmg for reference, not as high as some servers I think.
#1 (+50 tissues)
Dmg: 160-448
Spd: 5.9
Range Mods: -70/+32/+10
HAM Costs: 40/34/72
28% damage slice to 205-573, 236-756 w/pwp
#2 (base tissues +30 dmg)
Dmg: 156-426
Spd: 6.4
Range Mods: --70/+30/+10
HAM Costs: 41/35/75
22% damage slice to 190-519, 220-685 w/pwp
So, not worth the investment if you don't have cash to blow, but was fun to try. #1 beats my 35% damage slice by 25 pts on the max before pwp, so it's still better than the best stock T21 we can hit on Intrepid, but the cost for the small increase in damage really wasn't worth it except to say I did it.
Also just sliced a krayt dxr6 with +55 tissues today -got a 22% dmg slice, so it endedup 226-512 damage (262-765 w/pwp) with +127 ideal range mod which was pretty nice.
SpunkyKuma
Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:25 am
#18
Hell no, I got 11 tissues off a canyon Krayt the other day and ran 10 powerhandlers, saving 2 for my guildie's DE-10 as soon as I find decent plumbum iron and already made a DXR6b rifle (4.8 192-431, 19% dmg slice 
) and still pondering what to put the last 3 powerhandlers into.
) and still pondering what to put the last 3 powerhandlers into.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
Bermag
Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:46 am
#19
TheSatyr01 wrote:
I'm sure I'm in the minority,but I'll take a speed slice over a damage slice any day. In the long run you'll do more damage with a speed slice...IMO.
Even if speed matters it would be better to get a damage slice than a speed slice. It is better to get a dam slice and then use a speed powerup. The damage slice will increase damage on both min and max damage. But the best you can get with a dam powerup is 33 max dam and 16 % min damage.
Bermag
Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:48 am
#20
What a waste to use an imp stock (at least if you are speed capped). A normal advanced stock would give you higher damage and cost less.
OditeFosore wrote:
Well, had 2 made today. 1 with base tissues and 1 with +52 tissues. Used imp stocks and went to a great 12 point smith on Intrepid. Base stocked T21's on Intrepid are 408 max dmg for reference, not as high as some servers I think.
Barb-Wire
Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:21 am
#21
my krayt T21 that is still functional is 610 max without powerup and a mediocre damage slice. i used to have a speed sliced one that was around 4.8ish speed if i remember right but it broke a few weeks ago after a failed repair.
i like using non-krayt damage sliced T21 with damage powerup. i save my krayt for special occasions.
Ackehece
Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:36 pm
#22
TheSatyr01 wrote:
I'm sure I'm in the minority,but I'll take a speed slice over a damage slice any day. In the long run you'll do more damage with a speed slice...IMO.
if you are speed capped (and most master rifleman try to be) the speed slice does substantially less damage over time then a damage sliced one... speed slices don't let you shoot faster then once per second , but if you have a damage slice an extra 35% of damage per sec can really add up... 3 shots at speed cap = 4 shots worth of damage vs 3 shots with speed slice
OditeFosore
Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:38 am
#23
Unfortunately the imp stocks are the same damage as the best crafted for us, I actually didn't even know that other servers can craft better damage stocks than the retreat stocks- I was just going for best damage and the imp stock was just nice for the reduced HAM and speed with the same damage.
Bermag wrote:
What a waste to use an imp stock (at least if you are speed capped). A normal advanced stock would give you higher damage and cost less.
OditeFosore wrote:
Well, had 2 made today. 1 with base tissues and 1 with +52 tissues. Used imp stocks and went to a great 12 point smith on Intrepid. Base stocked T21's on Intrepid are 408 max dmg for reference, not as high as some servers I think.
KrogaMasi
Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:06 am
#24
For anyone on the bloodfin server that has been inside Gdog's weapon cache, you have seen what he has. He has like 15 t21s with over 850 max damage puped. Now if he used krayt tissues, i dont know but w/e the case he has a bunch of awsome weapons.
Irah
Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:59 pm
#25
OditeForsore wrote:
Bermag wrote:
What a waste to use an imp stock (at least if you are speed capped). A normal advanced stock would give you higher damage and cost less.
OditeFosore wrote:
Well, had 2 made today. 1 with base tissues and 1 with +52 tissues. Used imp stocks and went to a great 12 point smith on Intrepid. Base stocked T21's on Intrepid are 408 max dmg for reference, not as high as some servers I think.
Ufortunately the imp stocks are the same damage as the best crafted for us, I actually didn't even know that other servers can craft better damage stocks than the retreat stocks- I was just going for best damage and the imp stock was just nice for the reduced HAM and speed with the same damage.
Looks like someone lied to you OditeForsore...check the math on those...if the dmg on the stocks were the same, the dmg on the tissues would add directly to the base stats of the rifle...you said that 408 max was standard for a stocked T21 on your server...408 + 52 (dmg on tissue) = 460 roughly...you stated that the max dmg was only 448. On the other rifle with +30 tissues you said the dmg was only 426 unsliced....408 + 30 = 438 max dmg....now this is assuming good assemblies and experimentations on both guns, but bad assemblies on BOTH is very unlikely...AND the difference on BOTH guns is the SAME...438 - 426 = 12pts of dmg and 460 - 448 = 12 pts of dmg. Looks to me like the IMP retreat stocks are 12 pts LESS damage than the crafted stocks on your server. Looks like the WS either misinformed you or just flat out told you wrong
Irah
Nirrain
Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:39 pm
#26
I love my t21, but I would never use 11 krayt tissues on it... with the amounts of krayt tissues needed to get a good assemble and a good slice will make the final piece so costly you might as well have bought an exeptional (well maybe not that expensive, but you get the point) and as the top of +300 damage will be relatively a lot less on a t21 because of the high base damage.
That said I would really love to hear what makes you,rimalz,say that 11 krayt tissues arent as uncommon as people think? I've been out hunting krayts three long duration times as ranger/rifle withmy mate, asword/doc, and however easily we can beat one, we can never find one? krayt graveyard, ancient krayt skeleton, random tat places... and not a single one exept for the two we forced to spawn with missions... what is the secret to finding them? am i using the ranger areatrack wrongly? - areatrack for animals, walk 1-200 meters and try again... this all the way around the graveyard valley and the other places...
And whoever mentioned that a sliced rifle decays faster, please elaborate... I thought it was only a question about how much damage dealt, so a damage slice would make it decay in about 30% less shots, but then again you kill in less shots and dealing for instance 15000 damage will tear your weapon appart equally much if it is done in 12 or 15 shots.... or am I misinformed?
thanks