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Thread: The T-21 is Perma Nerfed and not broken! Armor piercing lvl is as intended and will never be AP 3!!!

GozertheCarpathian
Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:06 pm
#14

Your analysis only adds to our argument that the T-21 should be fixed. The entire IDEA behinda rifleman is to hit something before it can walk over and stomp on us. If I'm hunting Rhinos in Africa I'm not going to take a .22 with me. I want that Armor Piecing gun and shoot it, hopefully once, but if not I'm going to want to do as much damage as possible as it's coming toward me.


Right now since we DO NOT have range on our targets (we all know it) we've got to deal with just sheer raw damage and AP.




P'twic Sunami
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Master Medic
Seflyn
Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:25 pm
#15

That's my feeling on it vaalenko, the T21 should be AP1 min.



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Tanker9
Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:34 pm
#16

AR3 or AR2, 1 isnt gonna cut it either honestly. Ever tried to shoot a high end mob? Dont do any dmg worth mentioning unless you just bleed it. Id sacrifise bleeds not being resistor armor effectedif it was AR3.



Isofly Neofly
Master Rifleman
Bloodfin
Seflyn
Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:19 pm
#17

1 is better than 0. Then in a couple of weeks we can start a new thread saying it should be 2 instead of 1.



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Vlamr
Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:50 pm
#18

Its gotta be a bug. They had to have changed it to 0 for a reason. I mean they have to change it back to 3. What would be the point in having a rifle that is AP0 yet its that powerful. I mean they should just rename it to the Suicide Rifle instead if they decide to leave it at AP0. In fact here is my idea. If they do finally respond to that massive thread over on the general disc board and it is supposed to be at 0 then lets start yet another major thread. But we will call it. Rename T21 to Suicide Rifle. It does more dmg to myself in PvP right now then it does to the player I am shooting at.



Vlamr Englis of Wanderhome
israiley
Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:55 pm
#19

after having pvp'ed some today with a laser sliced and powered up to 500 dmg (ar2) i can say that 75% damage decrease hasf'd us bad. i dont think fixing the t21 to ar3 is gonna help that much. what we need is some sort of compromise...say 33%-50% decrease. or maybedecrease the dmg reduction to 33-50%for certain specials. cause the 1 shot kill is all we rifleman had going for us prepatch...and now that they've stolen that from us we're just prone targets.



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Jobu888
Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:09 pm
#20

Personally i think the ar3 is overpowered at novice. and im a master riflemen. not over powered where it should be made ar 0 1 or 2. just change the certification to the master riflemen. nice easy fix. what do ya think?



Seflyn
Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:17 pm
#21

I'd like them to copy the T21 call it a T22 and change the AP to 3 on the T22. Put the cert for T22 at master or sniper, that way you don't get the best gun till you get higher up in the tree. Then they could half the ham cost on the T21 and change it so it doesn't need such rare resources.


But all that would take time, it would be much easier for them just to change the 0 to a 3 and let us get on with killing.




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Tanker9
Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:18 pm
#22

yeah everyone I shoot sees my mind plummet and pulls out their pistol and eye shots me. SO MUCH FOR BEING ONLY CLASS TO DO MIND DMG>!



Isofly Neofly
Master Rifleman
Bloodfin
DilandauAlbatou
Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:32 pm
#23

Its not broken? thats why my t21 has0 minimum range negative 33 ideal range and 0 maximum range right?


Get off it troll, your a moron.





Khariste Dilandau Albatou - Master Sharpshooter
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DarthWicket
Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:38 pm
#24

Wow this thread really went down the tubes... never been call a troll before, but i do like to spark a good debate


i still believe the T-21 was intentionally make weak... go look in the the top 5 issues post by Q. Hmm no T-21 there... but the SG-82 weak condition is # 3.... hmmm ... when did the SG-82 become a top issue?


the main reason i think that the T-21 was purposely perma nerfed still remains the same. 2 shoting a 4k xp creature is makes the game to easy.


i still dont understand ur guys argurments that we cant kill anything... i easily can shoot something from prone/maskscent with both mindshot 1& 2 and HS2 and then warning shot it away from me... that and i am a master creature handler so i mainly use my gurrek meat shield to hold things at a good range.


i dont think that the t-21 was nerfed due to pvp... but due to power leveling of rifle. If i hadan AP 3T-21i could be master rifleman in a nice 10 hr game session...


ill continue to run my 600+ damage 5.8 attack speed AP 2 laser rifle...


DW


humble troll out



Tanker9
Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:41 pm
#25

You cant 2 shot a 4k xp mob without master rifleman at which pt you dont need xp. Heck Im 1.6million xp into master. Joy!



Isofly Neofly
Master Rifleman
Bloodfin
Seflyn
Mon Aug 18, 2003 6:36 am
#26

Well my T22 idea would fit in fine, or just stick it at maser. Who cares if you can 2 shot for exp then, you sure don't need it.



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