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Thread: WHY DONT RIFLEMEN/RIFLEWOMAN HAVE A KD SHOT?????????

Serenius
Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:10 am
#14

Riflemen can dish out some of the highest amount of damage in the game, we have a gun that ignores composite armor. We can rip through an almost unhealable pool that is largely neglected by other combat classes. Now that we can actually hit things in battle, it's hard to take us down WITHOUT using some form of KD or delay. Rifleman is all about dealing huge damage and taking out your enemies from a long-distance before they can touch you. The best part is that it doesn't suck up all of your skill points, so you can pick up another profession to address the melee issue and KD issue (easy way is to get a high damage BE Gurreck and sick it on anyone who KDs or delays you, or the more fun way is pick up a melee class with KD defense).




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Zeritel
Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:30 am
#15

i think we should have a rifle KD melee attack where we hit the enemy with the stock of our rifle.




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Jeisyn
Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:40 am
#16

sure we have a KD.. it's the best KD in the game!


it goes like this: you place your cursor over the enemy's HAM bars, find the weakest pool. If it's mind, use HS2 or 3, if it's health/action, use Flushing2 or Strafe2. fire away until ham reaches 0. on average PVP opponent who isn't doc buffed or dancer buffed - this will take 2-5 seconds. they are now knocked down. BAM, Snipershot!


there ya go. permanent KD.


lol



in all seriousness, if you want a "real" KD, spend some skill points and pick up TKM or Smuggler or someother profession that has a KD to suppliment your rifle skills. to put a real KD in the rifleman tree would make us FAR too powerful. No one can bring a player down faster than Rifleman (except TKM, but they can only do that within 25m. Commando can do 1 shots but it's unreliable and again, limited in range. BH's with top of the line LLC's can oneshot, but armor will stop it, and again, that's rare).


those classes need KD's because they don't have the dmg dealing capability/armor penetration/area of effect/speed/accuracy/pool snipingthat we have. 'nuff said.




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YarKi
Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:34 pm
#17






klawlegna wrote:
They would say, but you guys can DB from a distance.





And they would be right.


1. Ranged DB is awsome. Ok if you don't PvP it is useless, but if you do it is awsome.


2. Dpending on your point of view we are either a sniper or a machine gunner. In either case we are not supposed tobe solo killers. A snipershould have a spotter to protect him from threats at close range and outside of his field ofview.A machine gunnershould have asquad (or at least a loader) to support himin essencially the same way.



So get yourself a partner(s) with KD (not too hard) have them keep anyone trying to close with you at bay in the mean time SS2 to incap then Sniper Shoot.



We need many things as a profession. KD is not one of them.

Dagobah13
Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:48 pm
#18

Once u hit master you will see ...there is no need nor time for a KD....Take ur jawa (or lazor for no armor) and strafe2 ...strafe2 they are dead...and as in they i mean anyone near them...


AnKh

Sotaudi
Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:17 am
#19

Flurryshot 1 or 2, and forced posture changes will knock things down. Even without the forced posture changes you can achieve a knockdown. However, it is not 100% effective. Sometimes it takes several hits to dizzy a target. Sometimes they can do multiple posture changes before they fall down. And even if they fall down, they may get up, and they may loose the dizzy. Finally, evenif they do not do a posture change, theymaynot fall down.


However, it does work. In fact, with FlurryShot2, you can actually knockdown multiple targets. I have fired FlurryShot2, gotten a group of enemies aggroed on me so that I had to kite them, finally killed them all (and even kocked one down in the process), then headed back to the starting point to find one still lying flat on his back from the orginal volley.


So no, it is not a perfect knockdown, and sometimes you kill your target before the dizzy even takes, much less, knocks them down, but it does work. Sometimes they do not stay down, but sometimes they do, and a lot longer than you would expect.


I would have to agree. If they gave us a KD shot, it would make us too powerful. I would rather have two shots that dizzy, one of which is an area effect, than to have a shot that knocks specifically knocks them down. Would I like it to work better? Yes. However, it does work.




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youngin
Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:57 am
#20

yea now that u mention it riflemen are powerful. at a long range. i dueled another riflemen the otherday killed him in 1 shot. lol so mabey yall r right we dont need a KD shot. and dose master marksmen help with the rifle skills at all? but i think im gonna master TKA when i finish with riflemen. i got plenty skill points left over and i just wanna be good in pvp. IM TIRED OF BEING KILLED lol. so if any other riflemen got any good tips for me to use in pvp before i reach master let me here it. and another thing. WHY DOSENT RADIENT HAVE THE T-21? i dont think its fair to give some servers it and others not. i cant tell u how many npcs ive killed with the t-21. why cant i loot or steal it lol. I WANT MY T-21.



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PyscoJuggalo
Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:18 pm
#21

I say master marksmen or try getting +5 in speed tapes, myself I'm mastering marksmen and getting plus 5 in speed tapes. Ya I'm obsesive compulsive.



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