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Thread: What rifle to use??

Thorac_the_Rogue
Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:53 pm
#14

Let's not forget that faster shooting = faster HAM drain - that's why I like damage slices..







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Trase
Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:06 am
#15

i prefer the dancer buffs along with the F/W buff. that way if i start getting attacked and my head gets bonked pretty good, i am not falling incapped
Devero
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:16 pm
#16






Xohamz wrote:

I belive that the Imperial stocks you get from doing the Imp Themepark add no HAM costs. Might be worth it.







True. They dont. My weaponsmith has made several rifles AND carbines using them. But the Mind HAM cost is the main factor. If you see a 410-420 rifle with 80-90 Mind cost, grab it. Odds are it was made with a theme park Form-Fitted Stock.



And as for dancer buffs.. go for them if you PVP. If you mainly PVE or are training up, very few things hit the mind.

Wolfus
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:20 pm
#17






Xohamz wrote:

I belive that the Imperial stocks you get from doing the Imp Themepark add no HAM costs. Might be worth it.






True, but why do the imp themepark, when the rebel is so much better?






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Xohamz
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:26 am
#18

I belive that the Imperial stocks you get from doing the Imp Themepark add no HAM costs. Might be worth it.
Aladine
Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:50 am
#19






Sotaudi wrote:





dimmu-borgir wrote:
deffintly get a t21, either sort of slice works fine, imo. the heavy armor piercing makes all the difference.




Given two slices (one damage and one speed) at the same percent change, you will find that the average damage per second (DPS) increase for either slice is exactly the same. That is, an 35% damage slice will raise the DPS by 35% by raising the average damage 35% over the same time frame. On the other hand, the 35% speed slice will raise the DPS by 35% by hitting for the current average damage 35% more often. Thus, it is a matter of taste as to whether you want hit 35% harder per hit or 35% faster. This changes, however, when you hit the speed cap. Additional weapon speed will not affect the DPS when you hit the cap because you cannot fire faster than 1 shot per second no matter what. At that point, you want damage slices.


However, powerups are a little different. Again, once you hit the speed cap, only go with damage powerups because more speed will not change anything. But before you cap, speed is better. A 33% speed powerup will raise your DPS by 33%. A 33% max damage powerup will only raise the DPS by about 25% and even a 33% Max damage/ 16% Min damage powerup will only raise your DPS by about 29%. So until you cap, the Speed powerup actually gives you the highest DPS.






Power ups aside


You forget about accuracy. At master you are 110% correct, but at novice there is one more thing to consider. At novice you aren't hitting all that often, so a faster rifle would allow you to shoot more shots in the time it takes a mob to go from where it is, to you, and this would turn into more damage.



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Damoku
Fri Jun 11, 2004 8:39 am
#20

I use eiter t21, Berserker or DXR-6b for PVE and Jawa or DXR-6b for PvP



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hellohelo
Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:06 am
#21





Sotaudi wrote:





dimmu-borgir wrote:
deffintly get a t21, either sort of slice works fine, imo. the heavy armor piercing makes all the difference.




Given two slices (one damage and one speed) at the same percent change, you will find that the average damage per second (DPS) increase for either slice is exactly the same. That is, an 35% damage slice will raise the DPS by 35% by raising the average damage 35% over the same time frame. On the other hand, the 35% speed slice will raise the DPS by 35% by hitting for the current average damage 35% more often. Thus, it is a matter of taste as to whether you want hit 35% harder per hit or 35% faster. This changes, however, when you hit the speed cap. Additional weapon speed will not affect the DPS when you hit the cap because you cannot fire faster than 1 shot per second no matter what. At that point, you want damage slices.


However, powerups are a little different. Again, once you hit the speed cap, only go with damage powerups because more speed will not change anything. But before you cap, speed is better. A 33% speed powerup will raise your DPS by 33%. A 33% max damage powerup will only raise the DPS by about 25% and even a 33% Max damage/ 16% Min damage powerup will only raise your DPS by about 29%. So until you cap, the Speed powerup actually gives you the highest DPS.






Power ups aside


You forget about accuracy. At master you are 110% correct, but at novice there is one more thing to consider. At novice you aren't hitting all that often, so a faster rifle would allow you to shoot more shots in the time it takes a mob to go from where it is, to you, and this would turn into more damage.




uh, do the math, speed wont be better, it will shoot more often but also MISS more often. plug in all the numbers and try it, same damage with either type of slice regardless of accuracy!
Entropism
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:30 pm
#22

I don't think they're giving stocks out anymore at the themepark. I tried 6 different times (5 friends and my alt) and we all got the crappy scopes.



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