Rifleman Archive

Thread: What being a SNIPER is all about....

Helld0g
Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:27 am
#1

Pistol: very bad accuracy all around, very high speed, low-moderate dmg



Carbine: moderate accuracy all around, moderate-high speed, moderate dmg



Rifle: uber accuracy (VERY rare misses at master), very low speed, devastating dmg



this makes sense, its not because u are a Master Pistoleer that it indicates that u dont ever miss....






Helldog
RaydonRout
Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:42 am
#2

You can't snipe from 64m its that simple - you are closed down by a pistoleer who hits you all the way from 64m - 1m. We lose most of our accuracy as soon as they close the gap by 20m.


I say if range can't be increased beyond 64m scrap the sniping tree as it is futile and out of place in a game where range is so short. Instead replace it with some sort of assault rifle tree.

PyscoJuggalo
Sun Sep 28, 2003 5:44 am
#3

We are not and never will be snipers. The rifle in rifleman refers to that glorious and godly M-60. We are M-60 street sweeping badazzez. Wanting the dev's to rework us into snipers is a pipe dream. Infact so we don't degrade snipers further I say we rename those two sniperbranches in our skill tree.



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SilverLobo
Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:32 am
#4

Actually countersniper's title is "Gunner". Only one title refers to a Sniper the other 3 are: Hunter, Gunner, and Soldier.


There are people trying to say "How do you know we are not suppose to be snipers, SOE never said what we are". We dont need SOE to explain what the class is they have allready done so by creating the profession with the skills it has. Looking at those skills it is obvious we are not snipers, but fire support with our THREE AoE's.


Like I have said countless times the fools of this profession mostly Novice Rifleman and even a select few Master Rifleman want to change our profession. They try to hide behind the ONE title as the reason, and also try to spin it off being a balancing fix. The fact is if we dont not challenge each and every one of them, SOE will change our profession they have already talked about it. If it happends they might as well give us all our skill points back seeing that the new Rifleman will be nothing like the one we all leveled up.

Pwa
Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:37 am
#5

We are not snipers. The fact that our best shot is an AoE should give you a clue about what we really are. Asking for high accuracy and high damage will only get our AoEs nerfed cause groups of riflemen could literary flush the battlefield in no time, even with a hard speed cap. Our strength lies in numbers.
jedideaton
Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:45 pm
#6

what being a sniper is all about... missing 3 times in a row... 1 from 60m, 1 from 55m or so, and one from pointblank cuz of teleport.



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Raloorn
Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:08 pm
#7






SilverLobo wrote:

We dont need SOE to explain what the class is they have allready done so by creating the profession with the skills it has. Looking at those skills it is obvious we are not snipers, but fire support with our THREE AoE's.






a whole THREE lol .... Some of us just don't assume. Maybe you should do the same .. im sure you know the old saying.



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well you can't say SoE is just in it for the money, because if they were they would open up classic servers and double thier income.
Tezctlpoca
Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:21 pm
#8

Our best attack is AoE specials, which basically makes me a heavy machine gunner. I work at the edge of the squad and mow down an oppossing squad groupin2-3 hits of Strafe shot2 while my team keeps their attention focused away from me. They almost never see it coming........and I'm giving that up to be a sniper? At 64m?


No, sorry, no sale.


I want the devs to leave my speed alone as it currently is at master ( which I just got this weekend ),and never touch this class again....unless they want to give backthe T21 it's pre-nerf stats again.


PerhapsI'm being pessimistic, but at this point I think any "good" changes they make for our class will no doubt lead to a massive nerf backlash.




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Pwa
Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:27 pm
#9

I agree with Tezctlpoca. I'm not master yet but I'm making good damage with Flushing Shot. Single target damage is the realm of pistols and carbines.
SilverLobo
Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:12 pm
#10

I dont need to assume, I dont need someone to tell me what their "vision" is. I am using the abilities SOE has given the Rifleman. You want SOE to change these abilities to your vision of the profession.


You assume that the abilities SOE has given to the Rilfeman was done in error, so if you are looking for the a$$ dont have to look very far.

Raloorn
Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:26 pm
#11






SilverLobo wrote:

I dont need to assume, I dont need someone to tell me what their "vision" is. I am using the abilities SOE has given the Rifleman. You want SOE to change these abilities to your vision of the profession.


You assume that the abilities SOE has given to the Rilfeman was done in error, so if you are looking for the a$$ dont have to look very far.







thats all you're doing in your posts lol


obviously you're new to message boards.


bold - not at all i just look up "All Posts made by SilverLobo" or do a User Search on SilverLobo and i see plenty of it.




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well you can't say SoE is just in it for the money, because if they were they would open up classic servers and double thier income.
SilverLobo
Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:42 pm
#12

Showing that you make a a$$ of yourself? Well yeah I guess I am guilty of that.
Beregeron
Sun Sep 28, 2003 5:41 pm
#13

Well lets see...where to start .


1. Rifleman = Sniper ... no way accuracy suffers way to much for you to be anything like a sniper


2. Rifleman = Machine Gunner .... this is most laughable thing i've personally ever seen....


2a. ROF on a machine gun should be faster than about any pistol


2b.You get a whole three aoe attacks


3. Rifleman = Black Sheep of all professions .......... this is my true understanding of the profession


3a. You can solo some mobs but pack mobs will eat you for breakfast


Now on to a different note ....... the rifleman is designed to be a supporting member of a group may be the case but it would be very nice to have rifleman changed to the sniper way of thinking . The machine gun theory belongs under the carbine profession they have a nice rof , more than 3 aoe attacks , and yes most machine guns are carbines... wow logic at work.

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