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Thread: NS PvP Template

KBISFORME
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:05 pm
#1
I'm curious what the best template is for going after NS Elders are. I'm almost done with TKM, and I was gonna go after Master Rifleman next. Is there a better template, or is this sufficient?

Thanx!



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OditeFosore
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:09 pm
#2
The best NS elder solo killing profession is swordsmen. Riflemen can deal the most damage to an elder, but without a tank, riflemen now die against elders with force powers. NS Elders are 100% kinetic resistant, so TKA will be useless against elders. Riflemen can solo elders using concealshot, but it is risky, slow, and not 100% guaranteed to kill them before you draw their aggro.



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KBISFORME
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:17 pm
#3
Thanx. How can Swordsman tank? I would have pretty good range/melee defense with the TKM. Is there something special about the swordsman? Doesnt swordsman deliver kinetic damage? I appreciate the help!



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capzyL
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:31 pm
#4
ehrm, you should really take this to the swordsman forum


but yes swordsman can tank, the best professions imo to kill elders solo is swordsman/doc. Swordsman do blast dmg with a powerhammer so that cool, you can do them easy. Swordsman unlike rifleman is pretty slow with a 6.0 hammer so i sugest you get a speed sliced acklay one, max dmg about 600. If you can afford the speed tapes that is.





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The_Great_Destroyer
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:32 pm
#5
Swordsman is nice until those elders bust out the Stun batons...then you're usually screwed...



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Naruk_The_Wookiee
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:38 pm
#6




KBISFORME wrote:

Thanx. How can Swordsman tank? I would have pretty good range/melee defense with the TKM. Is there something special about the swordsman? Doesnt swordsman deliver kinetic damage? I appreciate the help!





Eeeem....fighting high-end-mobs like elders melee/ranged defense and stat-defense helps next to nothing....they have so freakin high accuracy that only your second defense(dodge/block/counterattack) will play a role while fighting them...since elders are only vun. to energy and blast u cant deal any damage with tka...even if they haven´t 100% kinetic it would be ap1 against ar3...now lets have a look a swords....43% toughness, blast as second damage-type(powerhammer) along with pure mind-attacks like rifle...all those with nice ap2 weapons....if have mastered every melee prof so far...tka is nice for low-level-stuff and i love the mediation....fencer was great(at pvp)while scatterhit was bugged and sometimes nice for grp-play but nothing to kill high-end-stuff...lack of a good ap1 weapon.... pike is cool....woot...great animations...good area-attacks and not to forget dots....swords is just awesome...pure offense power if u have the speed(master brawler+combat powers helps a lot)and gear....



Mastered Professions so far: * Brawler *TKA * Fencer * Swordsman * Pikeman * Marksman * Rifleman * Scout * Creature Handler * Medic
Sotaudi
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:44 pm
#7




KBISFORME wrote:

I'm curious what the best template is for going after NS Elders are. I'm almost done with TKM, and I was gonna go after Master Rifleman next. Is there a better template, or is this sufficient?

Thanx!






As a Master Rifleman/Master Swordsman/Master Brawler with Medic, I had no trouble at all killing any NS I came across. Yes, Master Sword/Master Doc can pound them, but I recall one time being in the Force Labor Camp cave with three or four other people and when an Elder and a Protector attacked, when the dust settled, I was the only one left alive (player and NPC alike)..


With that template against Elders, you can Concealshot an elder and not take any damage or, you can bleed and kite using Headshot3. If they catch up to you, simply switch to hammer,hit them with intimidate and turn on Cetner of being,and continue pounding away on their mind.


Now that I dropped the melee professions for Master Doc, I am unable to affect Protectors, Spellweavers, or Stalkers, but I believe there are Night Sisters that are, likewise, immune to Blast and Kinetic, meaning a Master Doc cannot touch those. I do not believe there are any Night Sisters (and certainly not the big ones) that are resistant to all the damage types you have with Rifle and Sword together. Therefore, I think that Rifleman/Swordsman is hands down the best NS killer.




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Naruk_The_Wookiee
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:51 pm
#8





The_Great_Destroyer wrote:

Swordsman is nice until those elders bust out the Stun batons...then you're usually screwed...





Nope...Killed some with stun-bat...stun-bat is ap0...so if u have armor with lets say 12% stun-resistance the ar1 of your armor will cut it down to 62%(12% by stun-layer and 50% ap0 against ar1)....equip an psg with +40% protection and stack intimidate+ stun....after that the elder deals next to nothing damage....even if they will it u for 4k damage it ends in less than 200 without counting toughness or synthisteak....only the lightsaber-specials or bleeds hurt a bit from time to time...i personaly wear 80/80 armor and switch to 37(stun)/79(kinetic)/66(base) armor when the b1tch has an stun-bat....thats the same reason why fencer sucks by now in pvp...armor and psg making there sticks useless...

Message Edited by Naruk_The_Wookiee on 09-20-2004 03:52 PM



Mastered Professions so far: * Brawler *TKA * Fencer * Swordsman * Pikeman * Marksman * Rifleman * Scout * Creature Handler * Medic
KBISFORME
Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:57 pm
#9
Thanx for the feedback guys. Didnt mean to turn this into a sworsman discussion. Lots of useful info:-)



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DrinkingWater
Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:40 pm
#10
i am a master rifleman and fencer, i can solo elders just fine, kind of slow when that nefarious 1 pt bleed sticks though I am thinking of getting smuggler 0010 for feign death.



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BHM
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:35 am
#11




DrinkingWater wrote:

i am a master rifleman and fencer, i can solo elders just fine, kind of slow when that nefarious 1 pt bleed sticks though I am thinking of getting smuggler 0010 for feign death.






I'm a MRifleman-Master BH, I can solo NS Elders just fine... yesterday I've killed 3 Elders and only one of them with conceal shot...


Oh, when I group with a friend of mine we can easily kill Axkva Min (spelling?) too.. he's a MRifleman/MBH just like me, you only need some tactic




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tredsaw
Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:27 am
#12
I'm Master Rifleman/Master Swordsman Great for elders, can deal damage to all ns's i've come accross. Can usually almost kill elders before they aggro with conceal shot then finish them off with the old hammer
Galjoss
Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:59 am
#13

Another tactic I was thinking of trying, and its a novel one, there is a chef food called parwan which reduces the recovery time for burst run, if it is high enough you recover imediatly, and apparently on dose is good enough for 5 burst runs, so I was thinking of just necking a load of that and trying to kite them, allthough Imagine the amount of aggro that I would pick up on that long dash might make life difficult when she decides to start running away, anyone think this might work?

Message Edited by Galjoss on 09-21-2004 06:00 AM

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