Rifleman Archive

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Teemo wrote:
I use the Spraystick all the time, but it does crap for damage. Forget about using it for PvP for the same reasons.

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Slight disagreement with the PvP comment. It's great to use for snipershot, as is a CDEF. Taunt your opponents afterwards, telling them they were just killed by a spraystick!

Fun factor aside, the HAM cost is low on it.I'll generally switch to the spraystick for an upclose /snip.

A 200/2.0 spraystick is right around the same dps asa 500/5.0 laser rifle... Its just that annoying peck apart your enemy that pistoleers have to live with instead of the gratifying destruction of half your target's life bar that's seen with a laser or T21.

Also, if you're not getting good damage from them (such as these7-77/2.0 Bazaar specials), maybe you should get on your weaponsmiths about making good ones. This is a very good gun for soloing riflemen. I have had that problem too, no one makes quality ones, it really is frustrating and as if the smiths just craft them from less than ideal components to fill the vendors...

There are good ones out there, its just bribing your smith with enough credits to track down the components to make a wonderful spraystick.

I still prefer the CDEF for sniper shot . The spraystick HAM costs are actually pretty high for Mind.

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Teemo wrote:
I still prefer the CDEF for sniper shot . The spraystick HAM costs are actually pretty high for Mind.

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This is why you get your pet weaponsmith to make you a custom spraystick that's been tweaked out to have as low a HAM as possible. I just paid 10k for a custom spraystick that has 13/32/32 HAM costs. Don't remember what the damage is. Don't care what the damage is. I didn't buy it for damage. It's there exclusively to spam Warning Shot at close range, and compared to my old 18/41/41 HAM spraystick, I'm saving 18 points of Mind per shot with the new stick.

Yes, DLT20as and CDEFs have lower HAM costs, but they also have lower point-blank accuracy, which is a pretty crucial factor.

I loves me my Spraystick, and heartily recommend that every rifleman get one.

don't spraysticks still stick you with the 2.5x damage mod? I've always recommended a D18 to my friends for spamming warning shot, it's faster than a spraystick, and more accurate at various ranges. virtually non-existant ham costs, too

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A 200/2.0 spraystick is right around the same dps asa 500/5.0 laser rifle

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When you hit master rifleman this statement goes right out the window. My laser (which is 93-686 6.1spd sliced and PUP'd)shoots every 1 to 1.5 seconds.

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R5-G8 wrote:
don't spraysticks still stick you with the 2.5x damage mod? I've always recommended a D18 to my friends for spamming warning shot, it's faster than a spraystick, and more accurate at various ranges. virtually non-existant ham costs, too

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Switching from rifle to pistol gets you less Rifle XP and more Pistol XP.

The road to Master Rifleman is already long enough without having to worry about deliberately reducing the amount of Rifle XP you get per kill.

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VolstedGridban wrote:

Switching from rifle to pistol gets you less Rifle XP and more Pistol XP.

The road to Master Rifleman is already long enough without having to worry about deliberately reducing the amount of Rifle XP you get per kill.

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That's not really true.

For one thing, warning shot does pitiful damage. So switching to pistol for it doesn't really detract from your rifle xp... you might get something like 4000 rifle xp, and 150 pistol xp if you use warning shot regularly. I consider that a bargain. I found the pistol to be glorious on my road to master... I even decided to get pistol 4 just for that (it was easy to xp in pistol after I had mindshot 1 and 2).

When a melee guy gets in close, he is going to hit you. Ideally, you see the guy at 30 meters, you say "ok time for the warning shot!" and pull out the spraystick. Oops, he didn't respond to that warning shot. Oops that warning shot missed. Oh man he's on top of me. He'll probably hit you a few times.Using a spraystick when the guy is close could easily get you killed, since 2 melee hits while holding a rifle will look like 5 to your HAM bars.

So yeah, the xp difference is negligible. You want to be fighting the BIG boys (baz nitches and whatnot) that give the big xp, and you CAN using warning shots to keep them off of you... but the big boys do big damage, and if theyhit you while you're holding a rifle, you're toast.

The way i see it, when it comes to melee opponents, switching doesnt mean a thing cos you're already dead. The name of the game for us is to keep any opponent out of their firing range. you can, in actual fact, win in PvP as long as you keep the distance. However make no mistake about the bounty hunter's LLC and the commando's rocket launcher. the range and power of those weapons match and well exceeds any of ours.

Spray stick still suffers from a 2.5x melee damage mod.

So if my choice either getting capped because I have a spraystick in my hand or a pistol its gonna be the pistol, at least then I might have a chances to get away.

Now the Spraystick is a good weapon when grouped and you need the experiance too (grouping with pistollers)

Its a good weapon but I've found with the rececnt removal of the stop to shoot animation I use my spraystick less and less. My E11 gets the most use.

The ONLY advantage a rifleperson has is to do serious mind damage. A spraystick does not do good damage. It hits at short range, but my advice would be to swap to a pistol or a sword to remove the 2.5x damage modifier against yourself if mobs or players get to close range, unless you've already reduced their Mind to next to nothing. Otherwise you will die very quickly.

Personally, I never use a spraystick unless attacked by very low-level mobs. Useless weapon, in my opinion. The 2.5x damage vastly outweighs the close-in to hit if you have other weapon options.

Anyone who's looked at this board for even a second has undoubtedly noticed a good number of threads detailing in great depth how bad rifleman are at close range.

To be completely honest, there is only half truth to their arguement.

For those of you who know what a spraystick is, I congratulate you. You are one of the few.

For those of you who don't. The spraystick is a little goofy looking rifle-class weapon that does next to no damage compared to the glorious laser rifles and T21s. It doesn't have armor piercing and is *sigh* just an energy weapon. But, most people don't bother to check out this amazing thing called the accuracy mods, and surprise! The spraystick is pretty dang accurate at pointblank. Sure, its not as good as a DX2 or a Scout pistol, but it makes for a good sidearm for the rifleman purist.

It may be different on other servers, but I've talked to quite a few weaponsmiths, being a nouveau riche hunter with too much time and money on her hands, and NONE ever sell spraysticks in any quantity...

Sure, I've only seen a spraystick do essentially 1-125 damage stock, but sliced and powered, they are good for 216 damage every 2 seconds there about. AND they are good up close...

So why isn't this the most common Rifleman weapon over the Laser and T21? The answer is quite simple: most people don't really know whats good and whats bad. The higher the damage means its good, the lower damage means its bad; in reality its just not the case. Every weapon has its own function for a ranged fighter, its just figuring out what it is. Its the same thing that goes on with composite armor... its resists are the best, so it must be the best.

So complainers, do yourself a favor and pick up a good spraystick and you'll actually have a weapon thats reasonably accurate in close. Sure, you won't do as much damage as a pistoleer, but at least you'll knock a good amount of that opponents HAM before he drops you.

(Also, pick your targets well, if it can one hit kill you, its probably out of your league, or learn to manage the creature better... but thats another article)