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Thread: What Skill Tapes//Armor Attachments Don't work?

Flitred
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:22 am
#1

Aren't there some skill tapes//AA that don't work?


I heard somewhere that Rifle Aiming is useless....is this true?

Are there others?




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Flitred
Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:23 am
#2

anyone?



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Mapai
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:02 am
#3

Yea I would like to know this also, I know some speed and accuarcy helps.



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shadowlith
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:18 am
#4

Crawl speed is useless, doesn't work.


Rifle Aiming only works if you use /AIM from Ranged Support 1 fo Marksman. Thus unless you /aim shots, Rifle Aiming tapes/AA's dont do anything. Cover is also borked.




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OditeFosore
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:26 am
#5




shadowlith wrote:

Crawl speed is useless, doesn't work.


Rifle Aiming only works if you use /AIM from Ranged Support 1 fo Marksman. Thus unless you /aim shots, Rifle Aiming tapes/AA's dont do anything. Cover is also borked.





The ones that I thought were not working are:


Cover - Currently no accuracy/aim/speed/other bonuses for "You take cover". Just waste some HAM, when prone is just as good.


Block - Anyone ever seen in your combat spam anything related to block? It may be that it is rolled up into all of the "The XYZ attacks you and misses", not sure.


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shadowlith
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:53 am
#6

Block is iffy on what exactly it does right now. I've noticed times where I've actually blocked a fair amount of damage, and times where it seems like nothing happened. I think block reduces the damage done by a random amount from 0-10%. Greater the shot at you, the more damage you block.




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OditeFosore
Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:37 pm
#7

Thanks Shadowlith. I may actually place those block armor attachments I've been holding onto now.


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shadowlith
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:34 pm
#8






Flitred wrote:





shadowlith wrote:

Crawl speed is useless, doesn't work.


Rifle Aiming only works if you use /AIM from Ranged Support 1 fo Marksman. Thus unless you /aim shots, Rifle Aiming tapes/AA's dont do anything. Cover is also borked.






Ah...but they aren't broken.....assuming they were intended to work with the /aim command while holding a rifle....





Err yeah. Bad wording on my part. I apologize. Shouda put AIMing in a different spot. Just kinda did it cause you wrote it in the original post. And Cover is screwed. Lets make this easier.


WORKS:
Speed
Accuracy
Accuracy while moving
Aiming (Must use /aim from Ranged Support 1 of Marksman)

NOT WORKING:
Cover
Crawl Speed


UNSURE
Block*
Conceal


Block as I said, seems to be very random in both effectiveness, and damage prevented. 90% of the time I get a +Block, I can barely, if at all,notice the difference done. I wouldn't use these unless you have a spare socket and nothing to put it in.


Message Edited by shadowlith on 02-19-2004 01:36 PM




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And be born a new.

Flames will rain down upon all that oppose him
And when the embers cool

None will be left standing.

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Flitred
Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:08 am
#9






shadowlith wrote:

Crawl speed is useless, doesn't work.


Rifle Aiming only works if you use /AIM from Ranged Support 1 fo Marksman. Thus unless you /aim shots, Rifle Aiming tapes/AA's dont do anything. Cover is also borked.






Ah...but they aren't broken.....assuming they were intended to work with the /aim command while holding a rifle....



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Flitred
Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:37 am
#10

Are youcertain +cover tapes//aa don't work?



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beamstalk
Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:40 am
#11

Cover tapes do add to cover, but cover is borked and the skill doesnt matter on how often you take cover or whatever it does to help you.



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OditeFosore
Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:06 am
#12

Hehe, yes, + cover tapes do work. I found a +5 when I was fairly new and put it in a shirt. I played with /cover a bit and there was a noticeable difference in my odds of "You take cover." The problem is that after you take cover, there is no other benefit besides a cool message telling you "You take cover." Some day there will be a purpose, either hidden from radar or at least from being able to be tab-selected, or a to-hit bonus or something. Right now though, that shirt I put the +5 in sits at home collecting dust.


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Flitred
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:27 pm
#13






OditeFosore wrote:

Hehe, yes, + cover tapes do work. I found a +5 when I was fairly new and put it in a shirt. I played with /cover a bit and there was a noticeable difference in my odds of "You take cover." The problem is that after you take cover, there is no other benefit besides a cool message telling you "You take cover." Some day there will be a purpose, either hidden from radar or at least from being able to be tab-selected, or a to-hit bonus or something. Right now though, that shirt I put the +5 in sits at home collecting dust.


Cheers,


- Odite Fosore






So there isn't a "Creature doesn't notice you shooting his head off'' Bonus given for using the 'take cover skill'? I always thought Take Cover wasa prereq for Conceal Shot? As you can tell i'm not a rifleman yet...



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