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Thread: StrafeShot2 bug

Waste93
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:02 am
#1
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up.


There appears to be a serious bug with StrafeShot2.


I was killing Troopers on Rori at the Imperial Encampment. I noticed that I was dying rather quickly and the targets weren't getting damaged. I was using StrafeShot2 with a T21.


Going back thru the combat spam I noticed I kept getting "You can not see target" messages. Yet the Troopers had no problems seeing and shooting me.


So I went back and did some experimentation. I found that standing in the same spot. StrafeShot2 would get a "Can not see target" message, yet the MOB could see and attack me. Furthermore if I just used autoattack I was able to attack. This is from the same spot.


This was done inside a building so the close quarters may have some adverse effect on the AoE attacks.



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JediRevan
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:46 am
#2
Actually Waste I can confirm this problem. I have been encountering it the past 3 nights (or at least I noticed the past 3 nights). I have confirmed that using single attacks and ss2 the latter would say that could not see target, but singles worked fine. I was spending the HAM points but not hitting anything. I was in a cave and a building during this time.


Hmmm ... maybe we can get some feedback from othere users, to see if this is a global problem or if its just some of us.



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WayneInAustin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:48 am
#3
Very nice work, guys.... I believe I have seen this problem outside, but around harvesters and trees. If I can get any corroborating evidence tonight, I will post here later.

Editing to add this comment:

THere are tons of NPCs between Tyrena and my house (a distance of about 1000m). I often stop to kill them just to see if there is any loot worth keeping, and to pay for my shuttle ticket! Several times lately, I have gottent that "Cannot see target" message even though they were in plain sight. In a couple of cases, i had to run up about 3m from them to hit them! This is NOT a good bug!

Message Edited by WayneInAustin on 02-19-2004 09:51 AM




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beamstalk
Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:51 am
#4
I think this is similar to the queue clearing when you kill someone your not targeting with the AoE. I think what happens is that another target is out of your LoS and it just carries over to all targets in the cone, including the original which you are targeting, need to test this but this is my theory.



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AmonTdow
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:43 am
#5
I've noticed this also. on open plains.
Gorag
Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:29 am
#6
I have run into it as well not only with SS2, but with MS2, HS3, and Concealshot as well. Everytime I have run into this is when I am at an Imperial stronghold or running the faction missions with the rather large 3 tower Imperial bases.
Waste93
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:21 pm
#7

Anyone have some good ideas on how to test this?


StrafeShot2 is just about the staple for all Master Riflemen. I would like to be able to nail down what and when this is happening so we can pass it on the our correspondent and then have him give it to the Devs ASAP.


I'm also putting in /bug reports and a customer service ticket when it happens. I suggest that if you encounter the problem to do the same.


From what some others have posted, could it be possible that when we are using the skill, if one of the targets that would normally be in the AoE is blocked by an obstacle, the bug causes it to make all the targets "Can not see target"?


Which would be why it's most frequent in enclosed locations such as buildings are as someone else stated when there were harvesters about.


Maybe one target was blocked from LOS so it considered all targets as being blocked from LOS.





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Fred_Skinner
Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:22 pm
#8

  • I have not run into this in the plans, are you certain there was not a rock nearby (the ones you can't see or walk through)

  • I have noticed this in the forests of Dath and Yavin. If I do the Flurry2, Flushing2 the SS2nothing worksand I have to apply autofire to damaget the target.

  • The closer I am the less likely this happens.

I have theory, we need to see if an experiment can be derived from it. If any part of the "cone" is blocked all of it is blocked. You can get LOS to the target picked but if a valid target near does not have LOS then the attack fails.


I'm at work atm, can anyone test this?




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klawlegna
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:54 pm
#9
I'll see if I can get a response from: Keldarin



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SoonToBeBountyHunter
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:16 pm
#10
there is a bug where you can shoot through the walls of rebel or imperial bases, the troopers may be doing this.



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Solti
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:30 am
#11
I've run into this problem before in a dungeon. Also I've run into a problem where in similar situations where the AoE attack hits the same target multiple times and misses everything else. I've been seeing this problem mostly in dungeons and occasionally be the Jawa Sandcrawler near the Krayt Graveyard.



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garb0
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:45 am
#12
my strafe2 didnt seem to be working AoE last night :/ hermit spiders attacked me and as you all know there week as but there was 4 of em running at me. Before patch SS2 would have dropped em all in one shot, but i found that only the one i aimed at died and the others didnt seem to have damage



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b_ming
Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:25 am
#13
im not master yet so i wouldnt know about SS2 but i was at fort tusken in clear view of several tusken's, i selected the closest i could see and used flushing shot 2 and i got the message that i could not see my target.






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