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Thread: The final grind has begun.

HARP00N
Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:32 pm
#1

4/4/4/3 now.... 50k combat xp go to (you'd think they'd make the requirements so you would get all the combat xp you need just as you get all the rifle xp you need... ie have all combat xp requirements 10% of all rifle requirements)...


anyways, at around 300 combat xp for savage quenkers and pickets.... this might take a while
HARP00N
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:26 am
#2

oh and btw i dont have the last counter sniping box, i have enough xp but i dont want to get it trained for fear of mobs giving me less xp for no benefit from the box (since it only gives range def which wont help against critters)... will i get less xp for quenkers if i train that box... or will i get more (read somewhere on this forum about how someone got more and xp for snorballs as he went up the conceal line cuz they were closer to his "level")
OneHung
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:50 am
#3






HARP00N wrote:

4/4/4/3 now.... 50k combat xp go to (you'd think they'd make the requirements so you would get all the combat xp you need just as you get all the rifle xp you need... ie have all combat xp requirements 10% of all rifle requirements)...


anyways, at around 300 combat xp for savage quenkers and pickets.... this might take a while






Before I hit master rifleman, i grinded all the combat xp first. it goes really fast from there.



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SatansCircus
Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:47 pm
#4

it's only 500k weapon xp, just a little more then a 4th tier box. Don't forget to group with a droid and leave it at the terminal, those savage quenkers will be giving out almost 400 combat xp. Don't worry you'll make it.



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Chewie101
Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:57 am
#5

The best exp is in the Genosian Cave. Just get in a grp and use an AoE shot. You can grind that out in a night.



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IamCadan
Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:16 am
#6

Combat xp used to be really easy to get before the last patch. But now that bleeds also cause intial damage, it took care of what I did to get that last box. I'd hit the creature with a bleed, disarm, run and let it bleed down to 1 point. Then hit it with a gernade. Gernade kills would generate pure combat xp plus another 10% added in. Was really easy. Now it won't work. Mind you, 500k of regular rifle xp isn't hard to get.




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HARP00N
Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:31 pm
#7






Chewie101 wrote:

The best exp is in the Genosian Cave. Just get in a grp and use an AoE shot. You can grind that out in a night.






dude, when i went to geonosian cave there were like 15 people there at the enterance, no one talking.. i think all of them were afk, they just had macros runing like /nexttarget; /attack; /loot; looping so they automatically kill stuff that spawns.. and you have about .5 seconds, becuase as soon as geonosian spawns they are hit 50 times for 2000 damage.
Seltor_
Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:21 am
#8

Heh, I was combat medic before I started on rifleman so i had already capped my combat exp @ 300k =)




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Sotaudi
Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:56 am
#9






HARP00N wrote:





Chewie101 wrote:

The best exp is in the Genosian Cave. Just get in a grp and use an AoE shot. You can grind that out in a night.






dude, when i went to geonosian cave there were like 15 people there at the enterance, no one talking.. i think all of them were afk, they just had macros runing like /nexttarget; /attack; /loot; looping so they automatically kill stuff that spawns.. and you have about .5 seconds, becuase as soon as geonosian spawns they are hit 50 times for 2000 damage.




First, if Chewie is suggesting using the AOE/Corpse bug to grind out XP, that is an exploit. They may not be cracking down on it right now, but you should not use it because they eventually will. But even so, it is wrong to be able to single shot red conning creatures, especially since there are people in there trying to legitimately grind out XP or get kills. It is wrong to take the kill away from them with one shot that is only working that way because of a bug. This is a known bug; therefore, using it is an exploit.


Even if it was not, we have enough nerf-herders coming to this forum screaming about our "ubberness." What do you think is going to happen when these people see a Rifleman standing safely off in the entrance of the cave spamming Strafeshot2 or Flushingshot2 killing everything in sight before they even get a chance to blink? Using this exploit will also help speed the nerf bat guaranteed.


Second, I have been the the cave many times on Intrepid, and I have never seen what you are talking about. In fact, I would find it extremely unlikely that anyone could AFK that cave and survive long. This is not to cast doubt on what you are observing. I only say this because it would be only possible to do this if you went in with a group of people to do this and/or used the AOE bug mentioned above. I cannot imagine anyone surviving more than a few minutes AFK and alone in that cave unless this was the case.


Either way, that is exploiting that cave. It is a highly valued POI right now, and no one has the right to use exploits or mass AFK loot grabs atthat site. Report them. There is no room in the game for that kind of crap.





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Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

Former Professions
Master Doctor | Master Swordsman | Master Brawler
Master Scout | Ranger



Ihaf
Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:54 pm
#10

Ihad the same problem I got 4443 and was lacking the combat XP. Buy 500 C12 frag grenades and use them. They go straight to Combat XP when you throw them. You'll have all you need in no time flat.




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HARP00N
Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:35 pm
#11






Sotaudi wrote:





HARP00N wrote:





Chewie101 wrote:

The best exp is in the Genosian Cave. Just get in a grp and use an AoE shot. You can grind that out in a night.






dude, when i went to geonosian cave there were like 15 people there at the enterance, no one talking.. i think all of them were afk, they just had macros runing like /nexttarget; /attack; /loot; looping so they automatically kill stuff that spawns.. and you have about .5 seconds, becuase as soon as geonosian spawns they are hit 50 times for 2000 damage.




First, if Chewie is suggesting using the AOE/Corpse bug to grind out XP, that is an exploit. They may not be cracking down on it right now, but you should not use it because they eventually will. But even so, it is wrong to be able to single shot red conning creatures, especially since there are people in there trying to legitimately grind out XP or get kills. It is wrong to take the kill away from them with one shot that is only working that way because of a bug. This is a known bug; therefore, using it is an exploit.


Even if it was not, we have enough nerf-herders coming to this forum screaming about our "ubberness." What do you think is going to happen when these people see a Rifleman standing safely off in the entrance of the cave spamming Strafeshot2 or Flushingshot2 killing everything in sight before they even get a chance to blink? Using this exploit will also help speed the nerf bat guaranteed.


Second, I have been the the cave many times on Intrepid, and I have never seen what you are talking about. In fact, I would find it extremely unlikely that anyone could AFK that cave and survive long. This is not to cast doubt on what you are observing. I only say this because it would be only possible to do this if you went in with a group of people to do this and/or used the AOE bug mentioned above. I cannot imagine anyone surviving more than a few minutes AFK and alone in that cave unless this was the case.


Either way, that is exploiting that cave. It is a highly valued POI right now, and no one has the right to use exploits or mass AFK loot grabs atthat site. Report them. There is no room in the game for that kind of crap.









thats how it is dude. There are literaly 15-20 people just standing inside the cave enterance, the geonosians spawn every 5 minutes (maybe5 or so in short intervals), and they are instantly killed so fast... i dont even know how they react to to the spawns that fast, they must have a macro running the next target button or something.. i literaly can not get a shot in



and the stacking damage bug isnt just rifleman related... or even AoE related. One of the people there getting a lot of the kills was standing right on a geonosian spawn and did like 20 TKA specials at once. And you have to be master to even use the bug, i think... something to do with your firing speed or something. Even with the bug its not worth it, too many people. Anyways i've been master for a few days anyway, ended up getting the combat xp continuing with quenkers

Sotaudi
Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:15 pm
#12






HARP00N wrote:



thats how it is dude. There are literaly 15-20 people just standing inside the cave enterance, the geonosians spawn every 5 minutes (maybe5 or so in short intervals), and they are instantly killed so fast... i dont even know how they react to to the spawns that fast, they must have a macro running the next target button or something.. i literaly can not get a shot in


and the stacking damage bug isnt just rifleman related... or even AoE related. One of the people there getting a lot of the kills was standing right on a geonosian spawn and did like 20 TKA specials at once. And you have to be master to even use the bug, i think... something to do with your firing speed or something. Even with the bug its not worth it, too many people. Anyways i've been master for a few days anyway, ended up getting the combat xp continuing with quenkers







As I said, I was not doubting your observations. My point was that the only way I can figure to accomplish this AFK would be to go in as a group all AFKing and/or use the AOE/Corpse bug. I have seen large groups of people actually playing the game get chased out of the cave bya big spawn, so the only way to AFK this would be to go in as a group or use the AOE bug or both.


As I understand it, the AOE bug works with any profession with AOE skills. It has nothing to do with Master and it has nothing to do with speed. The bug totals all the damage done by the AOE on the corpses and applies to to the current target. So anyone with an AOE special and a pile of corpses in their target area will get it.


My point was not to question you; it was to point out that that is an exploit no matter how they were accomplishing it. And they should be reported.



Sotaudi Crestlighter
Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

Former Professions
Master Doctor | Master Swordsman | Master Brawler
Master Scout | Ranger



HARP00N
Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:24 pm
#13

TKAs dont have AoEs do they?
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