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Thread: Now THIS is what I call a T21...

VolstedGridban
Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:24 am
#1

One of the Tempest weaponcrafters makes what he refers to as "Heavy T21s." They're T21s with a built in stock, which raises the damage but also raises the HAM. Their damage is 167-393, but the HAM costs are 66/60/99. So I've always avoided them.

Once I hit Master and found that I could fire a T21 as fast as my Spraystick, I thought it would be useful to go out and get a high-damage T21 strictly for autofire purposes. And since autofire doesn't use HAM, I figured these Heavy T21s would do the trick nicely. So I went and bought three of 'em and took 'em to a slicer.

19% speed slice...





20% speed slice...



















33% damage slice


Here's what it looks like with a 16% Min/32% Max powerup:

BOOYAH!



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WookieInLaw
Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:29 am
#2

Diggity dang! Very nice!



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DacianThrax
Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:41 am
#3

/drool on


I'm gonna forward that to my Master Weaponsmith friend as my Christmas wish




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PyscoJuggalo
Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:49 am
#4

WOW




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Badhorsey
Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:16 am
#5

Those are nice rifles, i have something similar on Bloodfin made by the mighty Zav of zulu corps, similar kind of stats but mine, sliced and powered up is at 698, i don't know the speed cos i stopped looking when i hit master lol Also i know that Enott has made some very nice Krayt T21's, stats well into the 700's and with HAM at a range lower than a laser rifle! the damage iswithout a stock! Would love to see one with a stock. If you are a master make sure you have one of these "heavy t21's" cos they really are awesome. I have a really special laser with stats i won't even say but i can tell you that even with that i still use the t21 alot of the time.If you are Bloodfin and want some help finding one i will be happy to try and help you out, just send me a tell in game. Good luck rifleman, hope all these great rifles see some great action!


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Settbacca
Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:54 am
#6

Just a word of warning, that T21 will burn out quick if you tack on that PU. Believe me I know, just think about it this: u fire that t21 1 to1.5 seconds per.....ur going to do plenty of damage and the PU will give out quicker than u think. When doing just straight auto fire you really dont need the PU at master. That is a great t21 and u should do what u can to lengthen its life. Just a thought...its what I do with my +500 t21's



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Jeisyn
Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:56 am
#7

Jei Rules..


(and no, i'm not that Jei)






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Gellay
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:24 am
#8

99 Mind cost per special is far too much.
I'd prefer a 400 damage T21 with just 66 or 71 mind cost. Calculate the lesser mind-usage with the 2.3x or 3x multiplier at specials and i'll bet you make more damage with lower mind/lower damage T21s, the time doesn't count that much at master-rifleman anyway...
just my opinion ...



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VolstedGridban
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:27 am
#9



Gellay wrote:
99 Mind cost per special is far too much.




You did read where I said I don't use this for specials, right? It's strictly for autofire, and therefore doesn't burn any HAM at all.



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and Volsted's Animal Resource Guide

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Gellay
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:58 am
#10

Uuups, right...
For autofire that rifle is ***edit*** good !!!



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dragonisthedoor
Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:54 pm
#11

I have a T21 with a mind cost of 99 and I use specials all the time


The secret is I use powerups that reduce the mind cost and increase the max damage. My thinking is the more damage I do, the less number of timesI have to actually shoot it, and the less mind it takes the longer I can shoot it when I have to. A powerup with 16% mind reduction PU takes it down to only 83, which is very close to the standard 79 i see on the T21's with no stock. A 32% mind reduction PU would make it 67. I powerup mine and use specials because it's only worth to me what I can get out of it, which is huge hits in PVE and PVP.


You are right tho, it does degrade faster and I would hate to lose a nice gunthat hasa rare slice.




Drache
lapp
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:26 pm
#12

Almost exactly the same as mine except mine shoots at 693 max damage, although my powerup is +33% max damage



Ham costs on mine are 56/50/88



Clearly my **edit** is bigger! hehe kidding



On Muon Gold and Breath Of Heaven you will spam specials without your mind bar budging. That new T21 is your best friend in PVP

Draconicius
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:27 pm
#13

Hmmm comparable to a prenerf 21.



I may have to toy with my parts



If I can shoot with no mind penalty.. screw the ham costs... damage all the way baby!!>




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