Rifleman Archive
Thread: Kind fo newbish question regading HAM use
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Vinjar
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:20 pm
#1
What exactly determines HAM use? I mean, all day long I'm pvping, mostly with my Jawa rifle. Later on, I'm in Coro, get my guy in my sights and next thing I know, HS3 is costing me 109 points a shot! Even fully mind buffed, brandy, and ahrissa, I did more damage to myself, than the other rifleman. **edit** is this?
Obviously, this just happnend and I'm still a little pissed. Thanks for the help.
LiakyK
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:22 pm
#2
You sure it didnt wear off? As long as your Focus is over 1600 you should be ok.
Vinjar
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:22 pm
#3
Oh, and I mean besides the stats on the weapon itself. I've noticed different HAM costs for different people and critters.
Vinjar
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:24 pm
#4
LiakyK wrote:
You sure it didnt wear off? As long as your Focus is over 1600 you should be ok.
No, I wish that was it. I was whatching the numbers above my head: 109, 109, 109, 109.....I'd just been fully mind buffed 20 minutes before, if that.
LiakyK
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:27 pm
#5
If you used 109 mind and had Focus over 1600 something wasnt right.
a bug mabey but 109 should not have been seen, did you also include the armor incumberence as well?
a bug mabey but 109 should not have been seen, did you also include the armor incumberence as well?
Waste93
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:29 pm
#6
HAM costs are determined by the weapon and the specials being used.
If you look at a weapon it will list the HAM costs to use it. All specials also have a mutiplier that increases these costs.
LiakyK
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:32 pm
#7
Ya bit of the Focus is 1600 after food and ahrisa, 109 shouldnt have been the mind costs.
Vinjar
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:33 pm
#8
Ok, my mind encumb was over 300... Please explain what I need to take into condideration. I thought the encumb just lowered the mind value. I didnt realize it added to the HAM cost.
And for a lot of the pvp earlier, I was with a large group, and didnt equip my helmet. I guess that explains a little bit.
LiakyK
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:35 pm
#9
Vinjar wrote:Ok, my mind encumb was over 300... Please explain what I need to take into condideration. I thought the encumb just lowered the mind value. I didnt realize it added to the HAM cost.And for a lot of the pvp earlier, I was with a large group, and didnt equip my helmet. I guess that explains a little bit.
It will increase HAM costs by lowering Mind Secondaries, that is what is used to calculate how much each special costs.
Vinjar
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:39 pm
#10
Ahhh, I'm begining to see. Any idea where I can find this formula? Jeez, it kinda defeats the purpose of pvping if I do more damage to myself than my opponent does. I might as well take up carbines.
LiakyK
Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:40 pm
#11
Just make sure you use the brandy and ahrisa, 2 brandies and 3 Ahrisa I heard is optimal for people with Comp armor. Also Muon is a good backup, and I dont know of any forumal unless Waste does.
XaverriJade7
Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:02 pm
#12
Just get as buffed as you can and eat/drink until the Focus value listed on your character sheet(Ctrl+C) is near 1600. I have 1100 Focus. 800 Encumberance armor makes that 300. I need 1300 more to get to 1600, so I must take 2 Ahrisa(400+ Focus)and 2 Brandies(400+ Mind/Focus/Will). Mind buffs will negate the need for at least one Ahrisa, maybe even one of the Brandies too. Encumberance-sliced armor will also help tremendously. Armor never takes away from any primary pool(Health/Action/Mind), but will take various amounts from all 6 secondaries.
Vinjar
Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:18 pm
#13
Thanks, I appreciate all the advice, and I'm really thinking it was some sort of bug. I had full entertainer buffs, 2 brandies, and arhisa at the time. I've noticed this sometimes happens when doing Janta missions as well. Problem is, this time, it was fatal in pvp.
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