Rifleman Archive

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RonsterA wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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That little +5 at master marksman is a hugh deal. As our Rifleman correspondent explained, this is a % reduction. Using the damage calculator, this increases my damage per sec using my T21 using Strafe2 from roughly 1200 to about 2000

Think out that...wow....1200 -> 2000 per second...I really wanted to drop master markman..but for that +5, Ill keep it

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Yea I agree that the +5 TOTALLY makes master marksman worth it until you can get yourself +7 in skill tapes, I just recently got my skilltapes, and its a world of difference! But after you speedcap with tapes there is nothing making master marksman worth keeping is what I was pointing out.

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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Ranged support gives Aim, Warningshot and Suppressionfire. All very helpful tools.

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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Ranged support gives Aim, Warningshot and Suppressionfire. All very helpful tools.

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ok I'll concede that AIM is nice when going after those defence stackers in PvP, but I have never used warning shot or supression fire, as most mobs are dead by the time they get to me. I don't know how effective suppression fire is in PvP, as I've never used it.

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Aladine wrote:

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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Ranged support gives Aim, Warningshot and Suppressionfire. All very helpful tools.

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ok I'll concede that AIM is nice when going after those defence stackers in PvP, but I have never used warning shot or supression fire, as most mobs are dead by the time they get to me. I don't know how effective suppression fire is in PvP, as I've never used it.

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Sigh.. lost my post to the "cant validate your session" BS forum problem..


Anyway... warningshot is very useful when you are getting overwhelmed, or as you get higher in power output when a groupmate is getting overwhelmed.. tag a few of his opponants and refocus on your own and give him a breather as most of his MOBs run off...

The PvP experiences I have had with suppression fire are that it is a decent substitude for KD when 1) you dont have a KD and 2) used against someone without significant posture down defenses.

PvE suppression fire is fantastic as well.. when it sticks it tends to lock them in place (Not NPCs mind you) for 15-20 seconds.. plenty of time to reduce most creatures to a corpse..

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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Ranged support gives Aim, Warningshot and Suppressionfire. All very helpful tools.

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ok I'll concede that AIM is nice when going after those defence stackers in PvP, but I have never used warning shot or supression fire, as most mobs are dead by the time they get to me. I don't know how effective suppression fire is in PvP, as I've never used it.

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Sigh.. lost my post to the "cant validate your session" BS forum problem..


Anyway... warningshot is very useful when you are getting overwhelmed, or as you get higher in power output when a groupmate is getting overwhelmed.. tag a few of his opponants and refocus on your own and give him a breather as most of his MOBs run off...

The PvP experiences I have had with suppression fire are that it is a decent substitude for KD when 1) you dont have a KD and 2) used against someone without significant posture down defenses.

PvE suppression fire is fantastic as well.. when it sticks it tends to lock them in place (Not NPCs mind you) for 15-20 seconds.. plenty of time to reduce most creatures to a corpse..

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I don't mean to play devils advocate here, but with buffs and armor like they are when do you get overwhelmed?I find I can take down a full enraged rancor lair myself in seconds, with most of them dying before they even get to me. If your friend started to get beat down, why not just strafeshot2 them until they are dead. The same thing goes for when to use supression fire? If I can kill it before it gets to me, why bother stun it in place then kill it where it is?

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Aladine wrote:

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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Ranged support gives Aim, Warningshot and Suppressionfire. All very helpful tools.

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ok I'll concede that AIM is nice when going after those defence stackers in PvP, but I have never used warning shot or supression fire, as most mobs are dead by the time they get to me. I don't know how effective suppression fire is in PvP, as I've never used it.

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Sigh.. lost my post to the "cant validate your session" BS forum problem..


Anyway... warningshot is very useful when you are getting overwhelmed, or as you get higher in power output when a groupmate is getting overwhelmed.. tag a few of his opponants and refocus on your own and give him a breather as most of his MOBs run off...

The PvP experiences I have had with suppression fire are that it is a decent substitude for KD when 1) you dont have a KD and 2) used against someone without significant posture down defenses.

PvE suppression fire is fantastic as well.. when it sticks it tends to lock them in place (Not NPCs mind you) for 15-20 seconds.. plenty of time to reduce most creatures to a corpse..

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I don't mean to play devils advocate here, but with buffs and armor like they are when do you get overwhelmed? I find I can take down a full enraged rancor lair myself in seconds, with most of them dying before they even get to me. If your friend started to get beat down, why not just strafeshot2 them until they are dead. The same thing goes for when to use supression fire? If I can kill it before it gets to me, why bother stun it in place then kill it where it is?

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1) why play with buffs and armor when you dont need to add to your expense? Not saying I dont, but buffs are not an argument for not knowing tactics

2) I hunt big things, sometimes stuff I can't take solo (especially as I am working up rifles now, instead of as pistols which you NEED to have more tactics on bigger stuff).

3) Tactical control of a situation gives you more options than just stand there and shoot... something to remember when they hit us all with the armor and buff nerfs that are sure to come from the combat rebalance

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

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Ariven wrote:

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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Ranged support gives Aim, Warningshot and Suppressionfire. All very helpful tools.

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ok I'll concede that AIM is nice when going after those defence stackers in PvP, but I have never used warning shot or supression fire, as most mobs are dead by the time they get to me. I don't know how effective suppression fire is in PvP, as I've never used it.

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Sigh.. lost my post to the "cant validate your session" BS forum problem..


Anyway... warningshot is very useful when you are getting overwhelmed, or as you get higher in power output when a groupmate is getting overwhelmed.. tag a few of his opponants and refocus on your own and give him a breather as most of his MOBs run off...

The PvP experiences I have had with suppression fire are that it is a decent substitude for KD when 1) you dont have a KD and 2) used against someone without significant posture down defenses.

PvE suppression fire is fantastic as well.. when it sticks it tends to lock them in place (Not NPCs mind you) for 15-20 seconds.. plenty of time to reduce most creatures to a corpse..

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I don't mean to play devils advocate here, but with buffs and armor like they are when do you get overwhelmed? I find I can take down a full enraged rancor lair myself in seconds, with most of them dying before they even get to me. If your friend started to get beat down, why not just strafeshot2 them until they are dead. The same thing goes for when to use supression fire? If I can kill it before it gets to me, why bother stun it in place then kill it where it is?

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1) why play with buffs and armor when you dont need to add to your expense? Not saying I dont, but buffs are not an argument for not knowing tactics

2) I hunt big things, sometimes stuff I can't take solo (especially as I am working up rifles now, instead of as pistols which you NEED to have more tactics on bigger stuff).

3) Tactical control of a situation gives you more options than just stand there and shoot... something to remember when they hit us all with the armor and buff nerfs that are sure to come from the combat rebalance

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Yea I miss having to use tactics, I was a commando when there was the 2.5x damage in effect, so it was TK knockdown, warcry, flame, and then run and I miss those days...but for the time being there just doesn't seem like a need, Hopefullythe whole SWG world is gonna be turned upside down when the CB hits and we will have to play smarter once again.

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Aladine wrote:
Yea I miss having to use tactics, I was a commando when there was the 2.5x damage in effect, so it was TK knockdown, warcry, flame, and then run and I miss those days...but for the time being there just doesn't seem like a need, Hopefully the whole SWG world is gonna be turned upside down when the CB hits and we will have to play smarter once again.

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So play smarter -now-.. get your experience and practice done... go hunting without buffs so you cant spam the heavy shots... you will be well prepared for when the balance hits..

It is also more of a challenge..

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Aladine wrote:

The only thing that made master marksman worthwhile at all was the +5 rifle speed at the top, its not like master brawler where you get useful skills. The ranged support line is only good so you can tumble for your aspiring doctor friends.

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That little +5 at master marksman is a hugh deal. As our Rifleman correspondent explained, this is a % reduction. Using the damage calculator, this increases my damage per sec using my T21 using Strafe2 from roughly 1200 to about 2000

Think out that...wow....1200 -> 2000 per second...I really wanted to drop master markman..but for that +5, Ill keep it