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Thread: Speed vs Damage

Elanae
Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:14 am
#1

Was curious what others thought...Do you prefer speed or damage on a VK? I've been going for the best speed possible and am wondering if I should switch over to a higher damage. Examples:
29-132 / 1.5
38-175 / 2.2




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Mister_Heavy
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:14 am
#2

Take the average damage over time to get your answer


((29+132)/2)/1.5 = 53.6


((38+175)/2)/2.2 = 48,4


I'd say the first one is better.




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Grimror
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:37 am
#3

Damage. You need to take into account your unarmed speedskill for this determination. This effectively lowers the speed that your weapon attacks at, but from other boards it seems to be said that the maximum effective speed that a weapon can be lowered to is 1s. So if you have 2.2s knucklers that are 30-130 and 1.8s knucklers that are 30-130, depending on your unarmed speed skill, they both could effectively be lowered to 1s, and put out the same dps.

Enos-of-Radiant
Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:13 am
#4

Once I get the third box in speed it seems appropriate to switch to a slower weapon that does more damage. Because all the skill boxes in speed should still bring it down to the cap of 1 second right? Thanks for your help.



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VohnAxelarth
Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:34 pm
#5

I only use VKs on opponents with armor now... or if I'm in a bind and have several on me at once... they definitely increase the damage output in the short term.



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KnightHawk420
Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:39 pm
#6






Enos-of-Radiant wrote:

Once I get the third box in speed it seems appropriate to switch to a slower weapon that does more damage. Because all the skill boxes in speed should still bring it down to the cap of 1 second right? Thanks for your help.







No. don't do that yet. Wait till you get Power IV at least.


Additionally however once you hit power IV ideally you shouldn't use them anyway unless you have to.




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Toknight
Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:02 pm
#7

I always use a vibro knuckler, it's just better. I do have macros that take it off before I do a state changing special (knockdown, stun, blind, etc.) though so, that might make the difference. If I have to be the one to take the shots I either fight buffed or I fight with armor and use few damage specials and just use the auto-attack and the specials that result in me taking less overall damage. If I don't have to take the shots (I have pets or I'm in a group that has pets) I fight without armor and just watch my HAM and use abilities accordingly.


To answer your question about switching, yes. Once you have the speed, you should definitely switch do a slower, harder-hitting knuckler because the extra speed won't help you. All of mine are either 2.2 or 2.5 and they all seem to hit once per second regardless of what attack I do. I think you need Power IV to have enough speed to do this.





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Enos-of-Radiant
Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:46 pm
#8

You guys are all great! At what point do you guys just use your fist and forget the VK's?



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KnightHawk420
Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:46 pm
#9






Enos-of-Radiant wrote:
You guys are all great! At what point do you guys just use your fist and forget the VK's?







Power IV.



That doesn't mean you get rid of your VK's though, you just won't be using them all the time.




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Ozonack
Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:47 pm
#10

For sure get power IV first, but dont give up on the VK. To do some awesome dmg get some dmg VK's, get a set of buffs, then invest in some focus increasing food. Ryshcate works good for me. Eat the food to get your focus above or very close to 1500. Now specials dont cost you anything.


You dont need armor if you kill your target before it does any good dmg to you.





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TechBoss
Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:28 am
#11

I don't even use the knucklers as you can spam more specials without them. I also noticed that I did more damage per hit without the things, very odd.



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SordDaPlaya
Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:05 am
#12

What would you guys say is more important.


For both grinding (which gets you more XP) and PvP (which does most damage to enemy)


I am jus a noob rifle guy with just rifles 4 atm, i hope to master rifles before the end of July

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firespyer
Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:21 am
#13

grinding I like speed until you get to xxx4

for PvP its all about damage, at master you will be shooting fast enough to compensate for a slower rifle



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