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Thread: problem with shooting while prone

LowbaTherf
Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:06 pm
#1

I am in Lowca, and after the new update, sometimes when I am prone I will be unable to attack with my default attack, only with special attacks. I can attack in prone and kneeling fine, only when I am prone do I have this problem. Has anyone else had this problem?



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Arhtas
Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:57 pm
#2

if the creature/npc gets withing like 10m while prone you can't attack it. are you sure they just aren't too close?



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Kryxal
Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:53 pm
#3

I was seeing some delays when going prone, but it's a new character ... for a speed-capped Rifleman, it might seem long enough to try a special.



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Cannae
Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:10 am
#4

I've found that for whatever reason, I can't shoot a lair when prone since the patch. The combat que will appear, the combat music plays, but my toon will just lay there looking down the barrel of his gun forever. No probs standing or kneeling. No probs with mobs either, only lairs. Weird.



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intvsteve
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:33 am
#5



Woot!


Sorry - I'm not delighting in your pain. I'm just happy that someone else has seen this. As a former commando, I finally decided to look here...


I'm trying some BH (not for Jedi hunting purposes) and noticed that I get exactly the same behavior with the LLC - also a Heavy Weapon. Can't engage in combat while prone w/ NPCs, MOBs, or anything, it seems, while prone. It does seem that maybe once in a blue moon, I will fire a shot, but I can't tell if it's because I'm standing and it's a lllllaaaaagggg thing or if it actually was fired when /prone.


/bug on it! I didn't see any announcments about this. If it's an intentional change, then it's totally a stealth nerf, IMO.

intvsteve
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:36 am
#6






intvsteve wrote:



Woot!


Sorry - I'm not delighting in your pain. I'm just happy that someone else has seen this. As a former commando, I finally decided to look here...


...

/bug on it! I didn't see any announcments about this. If it's an intentional change, then it's totally a stealth nerf, IMO.





oops - sorry, didn't notice this was on the Rifleman board till after I hit 'post'... So, the /prone bug is even more pervasive than I thought!

intvsteve
Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:46 am
#7

I've seen exactly this problem using LLC while prone - haven't tried w/ rifle. I was at long range (50m-64m).


Please make sure to /bug this.


BTW, I'm on Naritus.


This bug was introduced w/ the patch, since I was doing this exact thing the night before the patch.


For a rifleman not being able to use regular attacks while prone is completely unjustifiable. Perhaps in some convoluted ways I could understand an argument not allowing such attacks for heavy weapons, but no way for rifle.


/bug /bug /bug the bejeezers on this and let's hope we can get this patched soon!
LowbaTherf
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:17 am
#8

Yeah, I was about 50 m away, and I sent in 2 bug reports so far. Other people should too so we get a response. Just don't harrass or flame or else we will get ignored anyway ^ ^



Lowca server character name: Leo Therf Ranger/Rifleman/Pilot
The wisdom of Solid Snake-
~Never doubt yourself. Just let it make you stronger. Learn something from it.~
~You're that ninja.~I'm a little nervous. Everyone else I've saved suddenly dies.~
~There are no heroes in war. All the heroes I know are either dead... or in prison. One or the other.~
~A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own.~~War is no reason to end a friendship.~
icarus-uk
Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:44 pm
#9

Ive had this as well. The default auto attack doesnt work if you are prone, no matter the distance to the target (within range of course). I didnt realise it was as common as it is, but I will bug it now that I know.
Daturaze
Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:24 am
#10

Same problem -while prone I can still squeeze of specials no problem, but regular fire does not occur. So I can fire off a dizzy, then nothing, unless I fire another special.


Kinda annoying actually.


Daturaze,

Master Rifleman


TonbTerak
Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:53 am
#11

Thank goodness it isn't just me! At first I thought it was a Yavin IV problem as it happened to kick in just before I arrived there.

Could this have anything to do with some new elevation code? I haven't been able to quantify it but every now and then I have been able to normal fire when prone. It's not been often so I've given up and fire from kneeling now. Very glad I recently mastered rifleman - I don't think I'd be safe doing this otherwise!
Daturaze
Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:25 pm
#12


Finally gave up waiting for a hotfix, sent a ticket in, and had a CSR respond in about 10 minutes.


At first suggested that I log out for an hour then come back in - but seeing as how I've had the problem since the publish that didn't work.


So the CSR (JasonP) warped in, grabbed his trusty T21, went prone aaaaaaaaaand....... nothing happened. He could shoot specials like I could - but no regular fire.So he said he was writing it up.


He did ask me a question which got me really curious though - he asked what level of Rifleman I was. At first I was taken aback, like "Can't you see by the confident way I handle my weapon that I am indeed a Master Rifleman ????" :> Anyway, was curious if the people having problems here are Masters orstill working towards it..


OH - and if you haven't filed a ticket yet - do!


Cheers

Daturaze,

Master Rifleman
LowbaTherf
Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:10 pm
#13

Working towards master. And (noob question) is sending a /bug the same as sending a ticket? Because I sent in 2 bug reports through my holocrondays ago, and haven't had any response yet _ _



Lowca server character name: Leo Therf Ranger/Rifleman/Pilot
The wisdom of Solid Snake-
~Never doubt yourself. Just let it make you stronger. Learn something from it.~
~You're that ninja.~I'm a little nervous. Everyone else I've saved suddenly dies.~
~There are no heroes in war. All the heroes I know are either dead... or in prison. One or the other.~
~A strong man doesn't need to read the future. He makes his own.~~War is no reason to end a friendship.~
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