Rifleman Archive
Thread: Haven't the Devs learned anything from other MMORPG's
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Trojamo
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:21 am
#1
With all the details on the CB still unclear, I would at least think that the devs would learn from all the other MMORPG's what happens when you go about and just start nerfing classes. EQ for example, they started out on the path of nerfing when the game first came out, then they realized that nerfing wasn't the answer, bringing up the other professions to match the ones that people were crying nerf for was the answer. Same thing happened in EnB when I played that game. They started nerfing everybody instead of fixing the other professions. Of course EnB is going under and that is the big reason why. At least in EQ they realized it and went about it the right way. Why do the devs not see that. When the CB happens, current professions that work will be nerfed hard all in the name of equality. Please Devs, look at the success of other MMORPG's and see that it isn't because of nerfing, it is because of fixing the broken classes to work as they should. Oh well, as in all cases here on the forum, theDevs will possibly see this and choose to ignore it. I would really like to see a revenue stream from SOE on SWG before and after the CB, I bet itthere will be a large drop.
Jenky
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:27 am
#2
Hmmm... I disagree!
The game has been destroyed alone by the fact that people can solo mobs like Rancors.... LMAO...
These mobs where suposed to be big groups targets!
We are not suposed to be 1337 d00dz pwn3rs, like the Jedis, but just normal combat folks...
It's not a nerf if everything gets balanced.. Then it's just balance and fairness! This CB, would also bring total fairness and stats, numbers and so on, on the paper to make it fair! Wih pub 11 and the GCW revamp in same patch there are allot of things that needs overhoul! Everything from AP, speed, dmg, ham and so on...
This patch "need" to do much much more than just nerfing Rifleman and CM... It's a hugh task, and it is beyond my brain knowledge, that they made jedi first priority in a time, where people are so bored with the game, and PvP is non exsistent, and still Devs want to focus on making this jedi academy
-Jenky
Kachada
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:27 am
#3
Neither you, nor I, really know what the combat balance will bring. If all they wanted to do was nerf everyone down to the lowest common denominator, they could have done that in a week. I would hope that these months of development will bring us something that focused more on new abilities and countermeasures rather than all out nerfs.
so while I understand your sckepticism on how the combat balance will turn out, you really cant say its an all-out nerfing
so while I understand your sckepticism on how the combat balance will turn out, you really cant say its an all-out nerfing
Kachada
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:29 am
#4
Jenky wrote:The game has been destroyed alone by the fact that people can solo mobs like Rancors.... LMAO...
agree
Trojamo
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:55 am
#5
While I agree with the posts here, I believe also that people should not just be able to go out and solo certain things. But it is a common fact that when you start getting rid of skills and other things that people work hard to get just to have them taken away is not a preferred principle. There are a few simplistic things that could be done to this game to change the face of PvP and which would also not allow soloing of certain things. Armor comes to mind there. Also PvP would be greatly changed by allowing other classes to have AP3 weapons like we do. As stated, if all other classes worked correctly, the face of combat would be changed justin thatmanner. Point being, that instead of fixing the aspects already in the game to see what would happen afterwards, the devs just assume getting the big nerf bat outand calling it a combat rebalance will solveeverything.I doubt it. After the CB, a new uber template will be found then guess what another CB? It will never end. That is my point. Fix what is currently broken. Do not keep whitteling away at the stuff that does currently work.
PyscoJuggalo
Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:47 am
#6
You know what will stop people from soloing MOB's oh I got the answer for ya and it is a hard bitter pill to swallow.
Nerf Chef Foods that buff secondaries, Nerf Doc Buffs to secondaries, and Nerf Musician Buffs- There problem solved.
CrashNgoBoom
Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:21 am
#7
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
You know what will stop people from soloing MOB's oh I got the answer for ya and it is a hard bitter pill to swallow.
Nerf Chef Foods that buff secondaries, Nerf Doc Buffs to secondaries, and Nerf Musician Buffs- There problem solved.
/agree
Those buffs allow the uberest of armor with a regan rate so high most mobs can't keep up with it. All while allowing endless spamming of the most powerful specials in the game.
Kachada
Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:35 am
#8
agree, to buff nerf, also nerf doc buffs.
would be wildly unpopular but would do the trick.
would be wildly unpopular but would do the trick.
eq_mind_wipe
Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:37 pm
#9
Whoever created those insane doctor buffs needs to get a clue. You should not be regenerating ham bars faster than a Nightsister Elder can damage them.
A BH friend just soloed an elder last night by tanking it, because he had all 6 stats buffed plus entertainer buffs too, not to mention the brandy and 80% composite.
I can't imaagine how easy it must be for say...a swordsman-fencer stacker to kill the same mob.
It's fine to solo high-level mobs like Rancors, just make it so that there is plenty of strategy and risk, rather than just paying a doctor 12k forf buffs and laughing as the Rancor wails away at you.
Eikmms
Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:53 pm
#10
Don't worry armor is getting the big NERF per Dev's at Fan Fest.
raldurrm
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:42 pm
#11
If they nerf fencer, rifleman, combat medic, and even pikeman do not be dissapointed.
isainc
Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:35 am
#12
Ok balance out professions..... but how can u justify makeing Commnado level with everything else when its much harder to grind???? I found rifleman a lot harder to grind that my melee prof's for example i did swordsman and TK in 2 days each rifleman took 4??? surely theycant make it pointless to do a more difficult prof. if at the end of the day the outcome is your just as good as someone who is took 2 days to get.
Archanious
Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:51 am
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Jenky wrote:
Hmmm... I disagree!
The game has been destroyed alone by the fact that people can solo mobs like Rancors.... LMAO...
LOL Rancors are Childsplay I can take on 5 bulls with no worry other than my health after the buff is gone and the sick wounds from there bile soaked mouths have set in. Kryats are being soloed along night sister elders and loads of other things. In fact I being a swordsman can solo almost anything in the game except for Dantari Rockshapers considering they resist all my weapons 100%. This game is screwed beyond belief and I doubt it will be fixed they should just leave it the way it is because that seems better than what they are going to do which is a half measure. You nerf all the professions then you need to nerf alot of the mobs. When they nerf my armor I dont want to be running away from a hairy caveman with a rock knife the would break should it touch my scythe. God I cant wait for battlefront.
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