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Thread: We need to coordinate our efforts on this Combat Upgrade issue.

BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:37 am
#1





While outside Coronet getting survival xp, I was discussing with a friendly scout the other day about the rarity of Rangers and how viable we are in combat. I was stating that we would be the single most expensive class after the Combat Upgrade, and how I couldn't believe thatThunderHeart actually stated that we were not considered a combat profession. He said, and I semi-quote "Yeah, but you must make a lot of money right?"


I died a little inside......


Anywho, we need to find a single issue and stick with it. What do we want the absolute most?


Is it a Health Bonus?


Is it a Weapon Certification?


Is it a Change in Armor Certification?


Anything else?


Me, personally, I want the Weapon Certification, but I think we have a better chance at getting the Health Bonus than that. This is what I posted in the CU: Ranger Feedback thread about why we should get the health bonus:



"The reason that we should get a health bonus is as follows:


1) We have the most expensive class after the Combat Upgrade goes Live if it does not change.


2) We have combat skills which we would need to benefit from the same boost to health, since it is a balance against the changes to creature and npc artificial intelligence and health/defense.


3) These are the combat abilities we have, that can only be used in combat: Creature To-Hit Bonus, Creature Damage Bonus, Melee Defense, Ranged Defense, Rescue (which brings creatures attacking fellow players upon ourselves, and I have purchased skill modified clothing to help my guildies for) and Traps.


Here is TH's quote about their feelings on Ranger:






Thunderheart wrote:






Rothin wrote:
The profession roles are a great step in the game, it gives everyone an opportunity to fit in some role in the group and you can mix and match different professions to make sure you can pick up lacking areas as well. Overall it's very good.

On the subject of Jedi.. you have to remember there are 5 different Jedi professions. Basically, each of them fits into a type of role. IE, LS = Damage dealer, Defender = tanking, etc.. so depending on your template your roll will vary.

As for Ranger, I'm very curious as well. I'm not sure where they fit in yet, but I'm sure we'll find out when it's on TC.






I'm excited myself to see howvarious roles play togetherandhow they all mix and match - - especially how the special moves will combine with each other at the elite levels.


For the details about each profession, that information will be easy accessible by pulling up the skills window (CTRL-S). You can't see the Jedi skill details, but I will look intowhat is possible with gettingthat information available in some way.


Currently, the Jedi testing will be done by the correspondent and his 5 chosen testers.


Rangers are another important issue. They aren't considered a core combat profession, so their role wasn't included in the combat professions role overview, but we hope to address that profession after the Combat Upgrade goes live. We'll release more information when the details start to firm up some time down the road.





If half of our abilities can only be used in combat, and one of them intentionally bringscreatures to attack us, then why would they state that we are not a combat class?"

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Badgewick
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:45 am
#2






BioEngine wrote:

. He said, and I semi-quote "Yeah, but you must make a lot of money right?"


I died a little inside......





We make money????




Fozziwakka
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darmokVtS
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:52 am
#3


Badgewick wrote:


BioEngine wrote:
. He said, and I semi-quote "Yeah, but you must make a lot of money right?"
I died a little inside......


We make money????





Ingame money? Yes, Ranger is on nearly every server a very, very good moneymaker as of current state of the game if you do not insist on playing in some style limiting yourself in your harvestamounts (the unbuffed / unarmored crowd very likely kills noticable slower than the buff/armor type, those naturally make less money )

Message Edited by darmokVtS on 04-07-2005 02:52 PM




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BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:11 am
#4

This isn't about money, dudes


I just wanted to share a story, is all .



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Vorpaks
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:13 am
#5

Or if you choose to use the adventure/explore portion of the profession rather than the harvesting/hunting portion.

Or if all your harvests go to guild artisans for free. Which is what I do.



Paks
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Vorpaks
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:15 am
#6



Oops sorry!

I would support the push for 3k, if we don't already get it, because that seems the most CU-centric. A weapon cert I would be content to wait for the revamp so they have the time to think it out and do it up right. And, erm, what was the other one? Oh ya, armor. I want to try this out first before I decide.

Message Edited by Vorpaks on 04-07-2005 09:17 AM



Paks
Master Ranger/Master Creature Handler
-I support ATK play

BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:29 am
#7

The whole "3K ham" thing that is being implemented has the following purposes (I like lists ):


1) Buffs being nerfed


2) Changes to creature / npc AI


3) Armor changes (stats? I don't know what's changed in their crafting for the CU.)


4) Changes to weaponry



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Oculus
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:43 am
#8


BioEngine wrote:
the single most expensive class after the Combat Upgrade



And we only get one wish? No fair!




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BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:51 am
#9






Oculus wrote:




BioEngine wrote:

the single most expensive class after the Combat Upgrade






And we only get one wish? No fair!






No, we need to find one Great Flaw within the system, and promote the acceptance by the Dev's that this flaw cannot wait until our Revamp.


It's probably that we will end up getting ourselves killed by creatures equal to our challenge level, which should be low if we do not get the Health Bonus that increases you "level rating" for combat in the CU perspective.


Rabideko




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Calculus_Entropy
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:29 am
#10






BioEngine wrote:

While outside Coronet getting survival xp, I was discussing with a friendly scout the other day about the rarity of Rangers and how viable we are in combat. I was stating that we would be the single most expensive class after the Combat Upgrade, and how I couldn't believe that Blair actually stated that we were not considered a combat profession. He said, and I semi-quote "Yeah, but you must make a lot of money right?"





Many of youhave this stance, that the devs said Ranger is not a combat profession, but I have never actually seen them say this. I am wondering if I missed something. If there IS a qoute where a dev said this, please show it to me as I will fight them to the death!


I have only ever seen a dev say we 'were not within the scope of the CU.'




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Vorpaks
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:47 am
#11

*NDA*



Paks
Master Ranger/Master Creature Handler
-I support ATK play

BioEngine
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:51 am
#12

I am trying to find the post right now, but I know I saw it. I just hope they didn't delete it already, but I remember seeing "We do not consider Rangers to be a true combat profession."


I'll keep searching, since I have an hour left until I get off from work .


Rabideko



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Caliet
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:53 am
#13

Jusygive us the ability toextract resources from Gungan's and Ewoks.



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