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Thread: XP xhange take 2

JBMat
Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:56 am
#1

So XP figuring is back as it was. What a surprise!?!


Is it safe to go into the other forums yet? I avoided them like the plague. There was even one enterprising young lad standing on Dant at the MO spamming for people to go complain. Wow. Glad we are at least semi-mature in here.


On that note, I am laughing at the amount of xp I can get in a group. I make sure to try and get one shot in on all targets - tough to do when the average bol is dropping in less than 20 secs and the pickets are lasting maybe 30. We were even taking random spawn and "orphan" missions down for xp. Yes I maxed all three weapons, again, and unarmed, and am now 6 boxes (2.3 million FS xp by my figuring) from Mellichae.


So if I drop Master, and two boxes of camping - that's 6 points and enough boxes. Maybe, but I am still figuring.


Anyhow, off to my semi-real job.


JB

oh yeah, soloing was working ok

Message Edited by JBMat on 08-19-2005 10:02 AM

Calculus_Entropy
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:16 am
#2

I don't see how the reversal can be seen as anyhting other than caving in, whatever the Devs motivation was . The overall whining will increase drastically AND/OR we will see tons of points pointing out that whining works. Yesterday was a sad day for me.

I take solace in the fact that some sort of XP nerf will be put in soonish.



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Sneev
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:43 am
#3

I think their change to exp was poorly thought out and poorly implemented. I agree that some changes are undoubtedly needed but the one they elected to put in place - without warning and without testing - was not it. I think it would have adversely affected the game for anyone who was not already CL80. It changed my prospective path to Padawan status from an estimate of several months to well over a few years (thats to Paddy mind you, I don't think I want Jedi). As I am still leveling up, and as I am currently unable to solo - an experiment saw me attempting to solo an equal con lair of bols. After 45mins, 1 cloning and multiple incaps I gave up.

I think that we need a change but that we can come up with a better mechanic than the one they enacted. One that is more fair to everyone who plays, and doesn't cripple or eliminate grouping.



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Phenix1050
Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:58 am
#4

I got into my first big group since the CU yesterday, running missions. Let's just say I understand now why the XP thing went into effect. Capped rifles, carbines, pistols and scouting in about 3 hours. That's close to 100k of FS XP in one day. Yikes.


The problem with their change is that it mostly hurts the non-grinders. An AoE group would still be raking in XP very fast, but when just two people are hunting, at normal rates, it really messes with the XP rate. But yesterday I finally saw how people were getting FS xp so darned fast. I just hope they re-nerf it. I admit, it would help me if they didn't nerf it...but really....capping all my XP in a few hours...that's just silly.



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This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
Calculus_Entropy
Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:07 am
#5



Phenix1050 wrote:
I got into my first big group since the CU yesterday, running missions. Let's just say I understand now why the XP thing went into effect. Capped rifles, carbines, pistols and scouting in about 3 hours. That's close to 100k of FS XP in one day. Yikes.
The problem with their change is that it mostly hurts the non-grinders. An AoE group would still be raking in XP very fast, but when just two people are hunting, at normal rates, it really messes with the XP rate. But yesterday I finally saw how people were getting FS xp so darned fast. I just hope they re-nerf it. I admit, it would help me if they didn't nerf it...but really....capping all my XP in a few hours...that's just silly.



How's this for perspective, Phen...I trained 6 boxes of Teras Kasi in 1.5 hours.



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Phenix1050
Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:12 am
#6

not sure how much XP that takes Calc...but 2.7 million weapons XP in 3 hours means that had I started the night as a level 1 newb, I could've trained up to 4400 TKA in the same amount of time. (TKA 4400 is 2,758,300 XP)



PHE'NIX ANTARUS
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BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
Owen-Lars
Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:30 am
#7

30% group bonus to xp after divisions would be great. XP needs addressing in groups. Grouping should always be more viable than solo'ing but not to the point you can just get full xp for hitting a beast once. The mob xp should be split then a bonus of xp added on.


2 man group on 5k beast:



  • 5k split by 2 = 2500 base xp

  • 30% group bonus = 3125xp each

3 man group on 5k beast:



  • 5k split by 3 = 1667 base xp

  • 30% group bonus = 2166xp each

4 man group on 5k beast:



  • 5k split by 4 = 1250 base xp

  • 30% group bonus = 1625xp each

5 man group on 5k beast:



  • 5k split by 5 = 1000 base xp

  • 30% group bonus = 1300xp each

The more people you have in group, the more easier it is to kill so the amount of xp gained should scale downwards. With this grouping would still be the most viable type of leveling but it wouldnt be stupid xp gains.




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Deadtech
Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:45 am
#8

The xp thing didn't bother me one bit. It made me think back to the days when I first started at launch and it took me until the beginning of october to finish bh.



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Dyrwen
Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:50 am
#9

heh, took me like 6 months to master ranger.. So I can't say I noticed nor cared about the XP nerf. Seemed like most people were just used to the new system and hated being slowed down. I know my lower lvl guildies weren't happy about it one bit, but such is life.

It is way too quick to master things these days, but I doubt that's going away anytime soon. I tend to just return to the Jedi training place once a month to cash in my XP and drop the ehanced reflexes box again so I can see my XP gained, since I'm certainly never going to grind out all those boxes with the stupid FS quests like everyone else seems to be doing.




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Calculus_Entropy
Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:52 am
#10



Phenix1050 wrote:
not sure how much XP that takes Calc...but 2.7 million weapons XP in 3 hours means that had I started the night as a level 1 newb, I could've trained up to 4400 TKA in the same amount of time. (TKA 4400 is 2,758,300 XP)



The math comes out pretty close (within 250k).



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