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Thread: Hey Devs! Change Tracking!

wakarashi
Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:44 am
#1
I am a Master Ranger on Scylla and was Krayt hunting last night with my group. I found like 5 Krayt in 30 minutes, but one major problem, they were ALL being hunted! Why not put a feature in tracking if an animal is currently being shot at not to show up on tracking? We could have stole the Krayt but that just isn't right. If a creature is being attacked, just do not let it show up on tracking at all. Now if you run into it, it should be a free for all! My two cents.


Wakarashi

Master Ranger

Area Fiftyone, Tyrena

Scylla Server
AgonThalia
Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:05 am
#2
In theory, thats a good idea.


however, the implementation on the coding end might be a bit tricky. For example:

Krayts tend to wreak havok with the existing spawns, sometimes they decide to munch on hapless tuskens, bantha etc.

Kimos are often found battling with each other on the volcano.


Critter vs. Critter fights might be a bit tough to filter out.


Another problem, is that while the spawn can be pinpointed with tracking,(im not a programmer) because it exists in a certain range.. players battling it might require a much more intensive scan (read server load) to give that info back to you.


Lastly, when i track krayts, i do a second track to find players in that area. If the distance/ direction are the same, you can infer the same info.


Good thought, keep the ideas coming, the more we critique, the better the idea becomes.



Draknev
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Fodder650
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:30 am
#3
Completly disagree I want to see all creatures that are spawning whether aggroed or not. I know its frustrating for you krayt hunters to not be able to find the next dragon to kill. But I want to see all the information in an area



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Washell
Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:03 am
#4
Lets move on guys, no krayts in the area.

(impatient group member who already moved on a little) Then what are these guys fighting? looks like a krayt to me.


The spawn popping up when you move 2 feet is worse enough, don't add more possibilities for embarresment please.

Fred_Skinner
Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:59 am
#5
Maybe we can get an indication that a critter is in combat?



Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
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Odajja
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:15 pm
#6
Hey all i doAnimal then Playersearch. KryattS(300M) Billy S(302M) Bob S (305m) Crude but it works.







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Geo-Pride
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:14 pm
#7




Odajja wrote:

Hey all i doAnimal then Playersearch. KryattS(300M) Billy S(302M) Bob S (305m) Crude but it works.









best idea yet, i want to have to give consent for people to follow me... sick of people latching on when im finding the pirate or a krayt i was doing it for a friend yesturday started with one ended an hour later with 5 guys with me on /follow, kinda not fair if one guy has payed me to find him



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Springbok
Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:29 am
#8



But as AgonThalia pointed out it would not indicate if its having a four second fight with a bantha (Murphy indicates the krayt would be and you decided to not visualize the fight, whereas if you did go check it would be with pc's), so therefore I'd rather just check all the spawns.





The worst is scouting ahead, finding a krayt 400 meters from you, whjile teh rest of the group is screwing around 1km away. Then you want to engage the krayt and burst run to the group...or wait for the group and not engage, either way you risk;


a) dieing, group gets kill for your hard work


b) dieing, group loses its location, or another group finds (especially when they assign a trailer to the ranger (has happenned to me before))


c) you don't die but another group engages while your group runs up to where you are, and then blames you for screwing up (despite the fact that they would still be sitting around having a good time while you work your butt off had you not found anything.)





Next, the kids in the back seat. In a group of ten, i get 3 group chat questions, "any luck?" "you find one yet?", and i get 4 tells with the same questions, all different people. My answer is always the same "I am a tk, thats my only combat, if I did find a krayt, trust me, I won't keep it a secret"





My apologies for going way off topic, but I'm coming off one of these hunts from a couple days back. I'm unbuffed, tracking while group gets buffed by teh one doc present. Its ok, I know the risks, sure enough I finda krayt,sure enough I die. "Whoops" says the doc, "I didnt bring any rez backs." Now I get annoyed, I still say to group "Its ok, I knew the risks" and despite decay to my comp, and miss any loot or harvest,I'm speeding back form Mos Taike. Get there....and within 5 minutes I get another krayt on track, we get it. It dies, (we think the flamethrower negates harvesting or loot, can anyone confirm this btw?) So no loot, no harvest. 90 minutes later and 8 questions the group leaves for the closest PA city to adios while I'm still off tracking. (I have certain points on a grid I have worked out the group moves to (in seperate parties) to trigger potential spawns) And upon reaching 2 of them no one there. I ask my one friend who asked me to do all this for his guild...."Oh sorry we're leaving, no one told you?"...."Nope, you all decide this in guildchat?"....."Oh ya...sorry....." (I'm not in the guild)


Its going to be a long time before I go Krayt hunting.


(again sorry for the length, the minor hijack, and the big rant)

Alila
Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:24 am
#9
how bout changing tracking a bit more, make it like the window that pops up when you buy a ticket, zoomed to 1km radius around you, critters/npcs/players in same colors as they are on the overhead. then when you hover your mouse over a dot you get a name for it (like when hovering mouse over objects in the normal view)..


this would be a LOT more informative than the current list, and only costs more client processing power (wouldn't change load on servers)



Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
icarus-uk
Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:22 pm
#10
Jump on your speeder and lure them to the squill caves Cruel, but effectivve.
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