Ranger Archive
Thread: So whats the point?
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groundcrew
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:02 pm
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I see were your coming from andI have to agree. I can't say howI would react as a Corr ( I don't have what it takes), but if the changes had affected Calcs decision to stay or go either wayI could understand his point of view. I don't imagin Corr to be an easy job for anyone, even someone as well liked and respected as Calc.
Trean wrote:
What you don't know and many others probably, is that I am not a ranger by trade. I was a master weaponsmith... nerfed that with the CU... now I am a full templated Jedi(master powers)... with a Master Ranger / Master Rifleman unlock character.
I do not use my ranger for PvP I use my ranger to GET AWAY FROM PvP. I understand that this is not the case for everyone, but seriously this publish/potential publish nerfed both my characters in one bigswoop of the bat.
Its not that I don't respect Calc, he was / is a very good Coorespondant two times over... but this type of revamp / rehashing of a profession would throw me personally into the cookoo's nest if I were the profession's coorespondant.
Trean
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:21 am
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If I wanted to be a ranger for all the harvesting efficiency and stuff; since all that is being moved to scout what is the point in keeping ranger? I don't want to be a ranger/smuggler/spy I want to be a ranger... i.e. the guy that can kill giant creatures due to his vast knowledge of creature hunting.
So here are some questions....
1) the master ranger mod to harvesting in a group... is it being nixed or is it being moved to the master scout box?
2) why would any ranger who like the fact that ranger's were supposed to be the PvE type of profession ever stay ranger?
3) If I were the ranger coorespondant when I found out this was the revamp I would have resigned too; would you have?
4) There goes the meats, hides, etc market. With everything being moved to the ub3r easy to acquire scout levels I think the amounts available are now going to be crazy and drive down prices considerably... thus you can't make as good as a lifestyle as an organics hunter.
5) GAH why didn't they just fix ranger, add some skills or subtract some SPand leave us be!
w00t I am going to be a spy/ranger/smuggler... gee if I were a smuggler I would be pissed about the Ranger Revamp... however I am a ranger... but I am still pissed off.
groundcrew
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:31 am
#3
Trean wrote:
If I wanted to be a ranger for all the harvesting efficiency and stuff; since all that is being moved to scout what is the point in keeping ranger? I don't want to be a ranger/smuggler/spy I want to be a ranger... i.e. the guy that can kill giant creatures due to his vast knowledge of creature hunting.
So here are some questions....
1) the master ranger mod to harvesting in a group... is it being nixed or is it being moved to the master scout box?
I hope its being moved to scout.Crafters still need organics and i like harvesting for them.
2) why would any ranger who like the fact that ranger's were supposed to be the PvE type of profession ever stay ranger?
Because i like the changes that they are talking about. I don't mind PvP, I just don't like Jedi / BH PvP.
3) If I were the ranger coorespondant when I found out this was the revamp I would have resigned too; would you have?
Nope. Calc does what he feels is best and (near as i can tell) is willing toput the needsof the whole before his own needs. For that he has my respect and i support what ever he feels he needs to do. I'm sorry to see him go butI stand by my friendsno matter what.
4) There goes the meats, hides, etc market. With everything being moved to the ub3r easy to acquire scout levels I think the amounts available are now going to be crazy and drive down prices considerably... thus you can't make as good as a lifestyle as an organics hunter.
*shrug* I just give it to my AS friend any how.
5) GAH why didn't they just fix ranger, add some skills or subtract some SPand leave us be!
I wouldn't sweat the changes just yet. You might end up likeing it.
w00t I am going to be a spy/ranger/smuggler... gee if I were a smuggler I would be pissed about the Ranger Revamp... however I am a ranger... but I am still pissed off.
Trean
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:52 am
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groundcrew wrote:
Trean wrote:
If I wanted to be a ranger for all the harvesting efficiency and stuff; since all that is being moved to scout what is the point in keeping ranger? I don't want to be a ranger/smuggler/spy I want to be a ranger... i.e. the guy that can kill giant creatures due to his vast knowledge of creature hunting.
So here are some questions....
1) the master ranger mod to harvesting in a group... is it being nixed or is it being moved to the master scout box?
I hope its being moved to scout.Crafters still need organics and i like harvesting for them.
2) why would any ranger who like the fact that ranger's were supposed to be the PvE type of profession ever stay ranger?
Because i like the changes that they are talking about. I don't mind PvP, I just don't like Jedi / BH PvP.
3) If I were the ranger coorespondant when I found out this was the revamp I would have resigned too; would you have?
Nope. Calc does what he feels is best and (near as i can tell) is willing toput the needsof the whole before his own needs. For that he has my respect and i support what ever he feels he needs to do. I'm sorry to see him go butI stand by my friendsno matter what.
4) There goes the meats, hides, etc market. With everything being moved to the ub3r easy to acquire scout levels I think the amounts available are now going to be crazy and drive down prices considerably... thus you can't make as good as a lifestyle as an organics hunter.
*shrug* I just give it to my AS friend any how.
5) GAH why didn't they just fix ranger, add some skills or subtract some SPand leave us be!
I wouldn't sweat the changes just yet. You might end up likeing it.
w00t I am going to be a spy/ranger/smuggler... gee if I were a smuggler I would be pissed about the Ranger Revamp... however I am a ranger... but I am still pissed off.
What you don't know and many others probably, is that I am not a ranger by trade. I was a master weaponsmith... nerfed that with the CU... now I am a full templated Jedi(master powers)... with a Master Ranger / Master Rifleman unlock character.
I do not use my ranger for PvP I use my ranger to GET AWAY FROM PvP. I understand that this is not the case for everyone, but seriously this publish/potential publish nerfed both my characters in one bigswoop of the bat.
Its not that I don't respect Calc, he was / is a very good Coorespondant two times over... but this type of revamp / rehashing of a profession would throw me personally into the cookoo's nest if I were the profession's coorespondant.
Makkaio
Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:54 am
#5
Trean wrote:
If I wanted to be a ranger for all the harvesting efficiency and stuff; since all that is being moved to scout what is the point in keeping ranger? I don't want to be a ranger/smuggler/spy I want to be a ranger... i.e. the guy that can kill giant creatures due to his vast knowledge of creature hunting.
To me, they are making the profession more like Antarian Rangers, which I welcome wholeheartedly. All your harvesting efficiency and "stuff" will be moving to scout, making that profession more worth while. It also allows you meat and hide harvesters to grab a better set of weapons skills by freeing up all those ranger skill points you won't need anymore. To me, scouts with double weapon proficiencies will be pretty deadly in the PvE realm.
So here are some questions....
1) the master ranger mod to harvesting in a group... is it being nixed or is it being moved to the master scout box?
Moving to scout.
2) why would any ranger who like the fact that ranger's were supposed to be the PvE type of profession ever stay ranger?
You might not. You may not like the new role. Like I said, scout with double weapon proficiencies sounds like it will work out well.
3) If I were the ranger coorespondant when I found out this was the revamp I would have resigned too; would you have?
He did not quit because of these changes.
4) There goes the meats, hides, etc market. With everything being moved to the ub3r easy to acquire scout levels I think the amounts available are now going to be crazy and drive down prices considerably... thus you can't make as good as a lifestyle as an organics hunter.
I don't know if I agree with this. With master scout not being a prereq for other professions anymore, Idon't think you will see many master scouts unless harvesting will betheir thing.
5) GAH why didn't they just fix ranger, add some skills or subtract some SPand leave us be!
Heh...that's a three-year-old question, isn't it?
w00t I am going to be a spy/ranger/smuggler... gee if I were a smuggler I would be pissed about the Ranger Revamp... however I am a ranger... but I am still pissed off.
Why? It doesn't seem like you understand the theft system. Your stealing abilities will be more like recon theft. Stealing secret plans and recovering special mission-based items. Smuggler-type stealing seems like a whole other ball game to me. This puts the ranger profession smack dab in the middle of the GCW if done right and will give them a purpose in both PvE and PvP combat.
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