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Thread: Bad Faction

JBMat
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:25 am
#1

I think I have bad faction ratings with most if not all of the major NPC groups in the game.


I have negative Jabba and Valarian... figure that out. Jawas hate me. Swoops hate me. Thugs and Drall delight in ambushing me. I am hated on most planets by about everyone.


To use the short version - i am not hated by -

Desert Demons

Tusken

One of the Ewok tribes

Belladonna League people

Corsec

Rebels

Borvo

One set of Gungans, not sure which tho


Everyone else shoots at me, chases me, and ambushes me. Ok, I may have brought some of this on myself, taking countless missions and generally laying waste to NPCs. I know have no clue how come some things I have never ever hunted hate me however - Janta? Never. Mokk, rarely. The Endor Marauders, nope.


Just a show of hands, who else gets laughed at by people in your group as you draw incoming fire from 3 sides?


I guess I should work on some of this - but it does make the game more interesting at times.


JB
pkirk25
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:33 am
#2

Often find that I've killed someone while examining my inventory by a bazaar. Neat cos you can sell the loot immediately.



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darmokVtS
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:59 am
#3

Hmm, I think I am liked by more npc/pc factions....

Imperials like me, apologise if they stop me for scans etc pp

I should have +5000 faction with:

Singing Mountain clan likes me (might be because I used to do genocide-like nightsister hunts in hope of decent polearm loot)
Jabbas guys like me too
Borvo's too
Hutt faction in general is also positive
"Townperson"
All the ewoks that hate the Jindas (I leveled fencer and 2x swordsman from novice to master in the Jinda cave)

Top-'haters' (-5000 faction) are:

Rebels
Nightsisters
Corsec Guys (I was one or two times to often on jabba corvette missions I guess )
Any kind of Gungans (They deserve to die just because of Jar Jar Binks )
Jindas (see above )


And the mercs running around dathomir science and trade outpost seem to hate me to, however I until now couldn't figure out which faction they belong to, when I kill them I get nothing telling me about factionloss/win in the chatwindow.

Message Edited by darmokVtS on 09-24-2004 05:00 PM




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jonn23
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:07 am
#4

Being basically a white hat i tend to keep good faction with everyone but the lowlife riffraff types


i definitely try to keep the cop types happy like corsec and rsf since theyre everywhere

my jabba theme park missions kind of killed my rep with valarian. they shoot to kill now

and of course my imp faction is maxed at -5000

Calculus_Entropy
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:07 am
#5






JBMat wrote:

I think I have bad faction ratings with most if not all of the major NPC groups in the game.


Why doesn't this surprise me?


I have negative Jabba and Valarian... figure that out. Jawas hate me. Swoops hate me. Thugs and Drall delight in ambushing me. I am hated on most planets by about everyone.


To use the short version - i am not hated by -

Desert Demons

Tusken

One of the Ewok tribes

Belladonna League people

Corsec

Rebels

Borvo

One set of Gungans, not sure which tho


Everyone else shoots at me, chases me, and ambushes me. Ok, I may have brought some of this on myself, taking countless missions and generally laying waste to NPCs. I know have no clue how come some things I have never ever hunted hate me however - Janta? Never. Mokk, rarely. The Endor Marauders, nope.


Keep in mind that you can gain and/or lose several faction types by killing certain NPCs (kill a townsperson and get positive faction in all the gangs on that planet). The way to get negative faction in two competing factions is actually fairly simple. You lose more faction from killing that faction than you gain by killing an NPC of the opposite faction. For example, if you kill Blood Razors on Lok, you lose their faction more quickly than you gain the faction back from killing Nym's peeps. It takes 2 or 3 more Nym's kills to gain back the Blood Razor faction you lost from killing a Blood Razor.


Just a show of hands, who else gets laughed at by people in your group as you draw incoming fire from 3 sides?


I generally have the same faction issues as the people I hunt with, but every now and then, we end up with a group mate that has the opposite 'bad faction' as we do. Nothing better than fearlessly walking through a group of Mokk and watching you group mate head for the hills becuase they all aggro him...


I guess I should work on some of this - but it does make the game more interesting at times.


JB








Calculus Entropy
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OberSenf
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:21 am
#6

Heh, I've ended up being fairly consistent with the NPC's who hate me and love me.

Jabba despises me (-5000 Jabba and Hutt faction)
Desert Demons hate me
Tuskens hate me
Thugs in general hate me
Nym's hate me (always interesting arriving and departing from Lok)
Pirates hate me
Canyon Corsairs (I think) lend me a hand
Lady Val loves me
Borvo too
Townspeople adore me
Jawas always help me out (going to the Tusken-vs-Jawa battle is always fun)
Swoopers love me (not sure why. Maybe cause of my kick-a@# bike)

I've really drawn the line with my NPC allies/enemies on the two planets I haunt the most (Tat and Lok) and I never really started out doing that. It just ended up that way. Sorta cool to be wandering around Tat, come upon some Desert Demons near a hermits camp and have the hermits running to help 'ya shouting 'Don't hurt my friend!'

Hehe, it's the little things like that that make this game fun.



RissKei
TKM, Imperial Sector Ranger
Skinning the galaxy one beast at a time...
Had Abbadon, Lok

Sojourner
Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:28 pm
#7



Calculus_Entropy wrote:


JBMat wrote:
I think I have bad faction ratings with most if not all of the major NPC groups in the game.
Why doesn't this surprise me?
I have negative Jabba and Valarian... figure that out. Jawas hate me. Swoops hate me. Thugs and Drall delight in ambushing me. I am hated on most planets by about everyone.
To use the short version - i am not hated by -
Desert Demons
Tusken
One of the Ewok tribes
Belladonna League people
Corsec
Rebels
Borvo
One set of Gungans, not sure which tho
Everyone else shoots at me, chases me, and ambushes me. Ok, I may have brought some of this on myself, taking countless missions and generally laying waste to NPCs. I know have no clue how come some things I have never ever hunted hate me however - Janta? Never. Mokk, rarely. The Endor Marauders, nope.
Keep in mind that you can gain and/or lose several faction types by killing certain NPCs (kill a townsperson and get positive faction in all the gangs on that planet). The way to get negative faction in two competing factions is actually fairly simple. You lose more faction from killing that faction than you gain by killing an NPC of the opposite faction. For example, if you kill Blood Razors on Lok, you lose their faction more quickly than you gain the faction back from killing Nym's peeps. It takes 2 or 3 more Nym's kills to gain back the Blood Razor faction you lost from killing a Blood Razor.
Just a show of hands, who else gets laughed at by people in your group as you draw incoming fire from 3 sides?
I generally have the same faction issues as the people I hunt with, but every now and then, we end up with a group mate that has the opposite 'bad faction' as we do. Nothing better than fearlessly walking through a group of Mokk and watching you group mate head for the hills becuase they all aggro him...
I guess I should work on some of this - but it does make the game more interesting at times.
JB








Yeah,what Mr. Lizard said....:smiletounge:

An in-game list of the different faction interactions (who likes/hates who, etc) would be nice. Perhaps one similiar to Freelancer, where it updates everytime you encounter a new faction.

I haven't really looked for an out-of-game list, but one of the major SWG info-sites (like Stratics) might have complied one.



Sojourner
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Wanderhome Galaxy
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WildBil2Me
Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:59 pm
#8

Hehe... JB you just tell them that you have positive Ranger Community Faction and they'll all back down trust me.


I personnaly have bad Corsec faction right now. It's very annoying being the only guy on Corellia being chased around by the police force.


They called it poaching I called it contract harvesting... so what if it was not flit hunting season?!?!





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Antarian Rangers: Wanderhome
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JBMat
Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:58 am
#9

Hey Calc -


If you kill Jabba types, you get postive Valarian and vice versa. Even with the point disparity, I still am minus on both. That is what makes me crazy. That and the interplanetary stuff. Like drop a swoop leader on Corellia - die you scum suckingvrelt - and you gain Desert Demon on Tat?


Anyhow, Drall really hate me. At one point I was actually -5001 with them. Don't ask me how, I was. Even had a screenie. Today at login, I was ambushed by the lil furry bahstahds - 1. going to the wind gennie and harvestor. 2. going to the nearby term to get some herbie missions 3. at my first herbie mission 4. second mission - twice, two groups 5. 3 times on the way home (walking to nail stray herbies) and 6. yes, my friends from 1 and 2 had respawned.


Least they dropped good money - crap loot tho


JB



Odajja
Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:25 pm
#10

Rofl The only ones that dont shoot are the towns persons. I think but im not sure in this but i could have swore a Squill was taking shots at me with a T-21 the other day.


However isnt there a Guy or something at the end of the jabba quest that resets faction standings??



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