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I got Wayfaring I the other day and proceeded to head to tatooine and make a camo kit, which i did, after mistakenly camo'ing some guy, I camo'd myself and went out into the desert to test it. Is there some sort of icon that should show up next to my ham? like the nose with maskscent. also, this was thursday, I tried to conceal again on saturday and it said i was already concealed. i've fought, died, cloned and i'm still concealed even tho I have no clue if it ever took in the first place. does conceal really last for days and after death?

When you use conceal and it wears off, if you apply maskscent it will act like conceal. This is a bug. We have, or at least I have /bugged it a few times. It has been this way for a few weeks. Some state that when you log, or use a transport/shuttle you will have to use another camo kit to get the effect granted.

The Conceal icon is the same as the Maskscent icon in your HAM bar. It should show up, Thursday and Friday there were a few issues with the icon not showing when grouped. Some could see it others couldn't.

I have used Conceal on Yavin and then went to Talus. I did not apply a new Camo kit after arriving on Talus, and the Conceal from Yavin had been worn off for more than 20 minutes. I used Maskscent and when trying to remove it by using the command again, it stated that I was already concealed. Not sure if this was a rare incident or not. If you are still seeing that you are camo'ed, via the system message, send in a bug report, you should also send one in on your icon status.

Good luck with your new skill, and don't die while fighting. As you didn't use Camo before the patch nothing will appear to have changed with it for you.

I noticed this once i got ranger. I tested my new skills once the Mos Espa ranger trainer trained me. So, i'm sitting there in my camp when a greater desert womp rat came into my camp, with my camo kit on, and attacked me while I was meditating. I read the ranger FAQ, and by what I read, conceal and camping anti-agro devices are both broken. Makes being a ranger useless eh? Nothing really works that I know of.

yesturday i was sitting in my newly aquired field base kit with a camo kit on. agrassland voritor hunter spawns about 40m away. i think nothing of it since i'm sitting in a aggro repelent camo with a camo kit on. about 30 seconds later the lizard aggros me and runs into the camo and kills me.... the camo didn't break and the camp didn't repel him, it jsut ran up and killed me even though i was camoed and in a camp. did this happen to anyone else?

Well, I've mastered wayfaring and know that conceal is, in fact, not broken. It's just that they use a 'roll of the dice' approach to it. So, if you prone passed an npc, you're less likely to be detected than if you are to run passed. As I moved up, and my skill mod added value to camo, I saw fewer breaks in conceal. Now, from what I read elsewhere, camping anti-aggro is still broken. Though, yesterday, I was campnig using a base camp and noticed that a tusken warlord walked passed us without aggroing. Not that I didn't kill him anyway (5200 xp a head). So, it may or may not work with that known.

thanks i've had a few problems, but it has saved me more then once. i really like conceal, can't wait til master for danthomir.

conceal is bull**edit**, you might as well just mask scent and avoid NPC's.

Was wonderin does the camo modifier help others from it not breaking when you apply it to them?

The main reason I started this line today was hoping to help my friends who do not have mask scent however we were all displeased in its effectiveness. Its good news to hear it gets better as you move up the tree and your camo modifier increases but does that mean it helps friends you apply it to as well? Or are they always hurtin for certain as it seems to break so often its not worth it.

I also was attacked today by agro NPCs and creatures while concealed however it did not break which I also thought was very odd.

"Was wonderin does the camo modifier help others from it not breaking when you apply it to them?"

You skill in camoflauge is used when applying /conceal to other players...

• Even if they have some camoflauge skill themselves, the success rate is based on YOUR skill.

So yes, a higher level of camoflauge skill will increase the effectiveness of your own concealment, and those whom you conceal as well.

If you're just starting the conceal line, then a voritor tracker will break your camo most of the time. Once you go up the line further camo eventually becomes more effective than mask scent for sneaking past high CL creatures. Did you get the Dantooine kit from another ranger, or are you at wayfaring III yourself?

Also, it's starting to look like there's a new bug with conceal. Volsted mentioned it in a thread a few days ago, and I've been experiencing it lately as well: sometimes when you conceal and then the camo wears off, the next time you mask scent or conceal it becomes ineffective.

/runs off to bump Volsted's thread

I have noticed this a few times since the last patch. I am attacked, but I get no message my conceal/mask scent has broken and it doesnt drop. Perhaps its a bug with the new change of the mask/conceal not being broken by combat. This is for mobs, this also happens alot with NPCs on Tat, but thats related to the faction issue with conceal I think.

As for conceal itself I like it and feel its worthwhile, except for on Tat. Every other planet I can run through red NPCs no problem, on Tat there are more red NPCs that ignore my camo than there are that dont see me. Extremely annoying, but just another bug.

Cul

I think I may have isolated the situation that causes this bug, at least for me. Both times it's happened, I used a camo kit on corellia to go imp hunting, and then got bored and took a shuttle to another planet while my camo for corellia was still active. After I arrived, my camo would wear off, and then I'd usually just use MS. This is when the bug seems to happen: when you MS in this scenario, it doesn't work, and trying to remove it results in the "You cannot mask scentwhile concealed" message being displayed.