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Thread: Mastering Ranger Under the CU.
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Calculus_Entropy
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:38 am
#1
There are no major revelations here, I just wanted to throw out my thoughts.
I finished mastering Ranger for the first time under teh CU ruleset, yesterday. My opinion? It's quite doable! The most difficult thing to deal with is moy own CL, but that is an issue when leveling any combat-related profession.
Scout XP is pretty straight forward. The bigger the group you are in, the more quickly it comes, of course. I found it came at a nice rate, even when I was solo.
Trapping, however, is a different story. I used the hints and tips from the community here and in the Scout forum, and found them to be invaluable for the trapping grind. Groups are the key here. It is a piece of cake to get trapping xp (along the lines of 50k xp, per lair in a 8 man, CL80 grind group) when in a group. When solo, however, it became tedious.
One thing I noticed...I stopped using Dweezel after Advanced Trapping 2. I was landing my traps just fine (but...I did have Trapping clothes...maybe trapping CA's work..yay!)
Feel free to chime in or ask me (or anyone here) any questions you may have.
I finished mastering Ranger for the first time under teh CU ruleset, yesterday. My opinion? It's quite doable! The most difficult thing to deal with is moy own CL, but that is an issue when leveling any combat-related profession.
Scout XP is pretty straight forward. The bigger the group you are in, the more quickly it comes, of course. I found it came at a nice rate, even when I was solo.
Trapping, however, is a different story. I used the hints and tips from the community here and in the Scout forum, and found them to be invaluable for the trapping grind. Groups are the key here. It is a piece of cake to get trapping xp (along the lines of 50k xp, per lair in a 8 man, CL80 grind group) when in a group. When solo, however, it became tedious.
One thing I noticed...I stopped using Dweezel after Advanced Trapping 2. I was landing my traps just fine (but...I did have Trapping clothes...maybe trapping CA's work..yay!)
Feel free to chime in or ask me (or anyone here) any questions you may have.
Vorpaks
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:48 am
#2
Congrats! Welcome to th... oh wait... 
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
DarthBrazen
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:02 am
#3
I just finished mastering this profession as well. So far i like it.Trapping is a definate asset, and I also use the tracking to hunt down babies for my other profeesion as an MCH. I think it complements the profession quite nicely. Camo also helps the MCH profession when huntingaggressive babies.I would like to see the profession put to use a bit more in the game. I don't see many of us in the game. I would also like to see the use of traps on NPCs, and Players. Traps aren't only for animals. Let's not forget those wondeful furry friends on Endor that snagged up our heroes in ROTJ.
I did find it rather easy to grind once i figured out where to get the xp for each tree. For the most part, I simply hunted with folks on Dantooine.
I definately reccommend the Equipment Factory for making traps & Camo. You use alot grinding the Trapping tree. I would also like to see something done with camps. I'm just not seeing them used as much as i did earlier in the game.
DB
Serraphin
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:16 am
#4
I think the "Ranger grind" is mainly a perception problem. If i never played the game before it would seem somewhat a normal flow however many of us are now used to "grinding" and from that point of view leveling trapping is seen as painful. Granted someone who is already at template has a painful time leveling do to the sideeffects of the CU CL system. But I think more of it has to do with the fact that most of us can fully template a combat toon in less then 2 days so anything less seems excessive.
AhnalNathrak
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:12 pm
#5
lootranger3 wrote:Hmm...so did they change it back to not getting xp until the creature falls. i worked on traps before the patch came that changed xp and i was getting xp for each successful trap landed.
You get the XP once the trap hits.
I'm also a Wanderhomie (/wave Calculus) and am 4344 Ranger.
One last session and mastery will be complete!!
Trapping was pretty easy, I started out as a new toon, and was soloing the near-Eisley spawn to start until I had some pistol skills and some CL.
It did not take long at all once I got in CL 80 groups, to get close to finishing off both Pistols and Ranger.
Sneev
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:41 pm
#6
I just loaded up on Dweezel, Stims, made sure I had some Medic skill to help with healing, and went out and took a solo mission. With TKM its easy to just stand there while the mob whacks on you, so I would taunt, then lob traps until I ran out of the 8 types I was using on the 8 spots on my shortcut bar, then kill the critter, harvest and rinse and repeat. Then break out more traps from the crates or make more up and go at it again.
Its dull but it probably didn't take me more than 6-8 hours or so total to go from Rangerxxx0 to Rangerxxx4, and only a couple of hours to get the first 4 boxes in Scout Trapping. I did it in a few sessions, and as I had already gotten Ranger4440 (very quickly too), it was the last thing I needed and I had built up enough Scout exps by that point that I qualified for the last box of Trapping and Master Ranger at the same time.
I would say the "trapping grind" is a silly nuisance given their lack of functionality for the most part, but it wasn't really hard at all. In comparison to getting the rest of Ranger it was a grind, but thats it. I basically got the rest of Ranger over the course of getting my TKM just from harvesting. Not a difficult thing at all.
I am liking Ranger a lot, although to be honest I can't really think of another reason to be one. I could have a much more effective hunting character if I switched from TKM/MRanger to TKM/MSwords/Medic0240/Scout0040 and ate that harvesting food as required. I love the silly HTFB and would miss it, I think I like camo but its hard to tell even on Dathomir much of the time (I go from seldom getting aggro to not getting it all), and I can certainly harvest a bit more but not nearly double what a Master Scout can. So I can't put my finger on what intangible thing has me still a Ranger. All I know is I can't stay one when I finish FS school, even though I don't want a Jedi and just want the alt - because the 140pt cost is simply too much to be practical. My alt will end up as a CH/Ranger I expect though
Its dull but it probably didn't take me more than 6-8 hours or so total to go from Rangerxxx0 to Rangerxxx4, and only a couple of hours to get the first 4 boxes in Scout Trapping. I did it in a few sessions, and as I had already gotten Ranger4440 (very quickly too), it was the last thing I needed and I had built up enough Scout exps by that point that I qualified for the last box of Trapping and Master Ranger at the same time.
I would say the "trapping grind" is a silly nuisance given their lack of functionality for the most part, but it wasn't really hard at all. In comparison to getting the rest of Ranger it was a grind, but thats it. I basically got the rest of Ranger over the course of getting my TKM just from harvesting. Not a difficult thing at all.
I am liking Ranger a lot, although to be honest I can't really think of another reason to be one. I could have a much more effective hunting character if I switched from TKM/MRanger to TKM/MSwords/Medic0240/Scout0040 and ate that harvesting food as required. I love the silly HTFB and would miss it, I think I like camo but its hard to tell even on Dathomir much of the time (I go from seldom getting aggro to not getting it all), and I can certainly harvest a bit more but not nearly double what a Master Scout can. So I can't put my finger on what intangible thing has me still a Ranger. All I know is I can't stay one when I finish FS school, even though I don't want a Jedi and just want the alt - because the 140pt cost is simply too much to be practical. My alt will end up as a CH/Ranger I expect though
Almagill
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:12 pm
#7
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Vorpaks wrote:
Congrats! Welcome to th... oh wait...
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
That's an interesting question. I was prepared for the worst in that I thought the trapping grind would be unbearable. Honestly, it wasn't bad at all. As Serraphin alluded to, I basically got all the XP I needed in only a few hours (spread out over a month
What, you mean you weren't grouped with a Ranger??
Tsk.
Calculus_Entropy
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:14 pm
#8
Almagill wrote:
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Vorpaks wrote:
Congrats! Welcome to th... oh wait...
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
That's an interesting question. I was prepared for the worst in that I thought the trapping grind would be unbearable. Honestly, it wasn't bad at all. As Serraphin alluded to, I basically got all the XP I needed in only a few hours (spread out over a month
What, you mean you weren't grouped with a Ranger??
Tsk.
Actually, I was for part of my remastering
.
groundcrew
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:55 pm
#9
lootranger3 wrote:
How did yall go about getting 50k trapping xp per lair? When I tried it I was lucky if I could get off two traps per critter before it died. It took me about 5 second to throw a trap. Good xp per landed trap was about 1k. Thats 50 traps at 5 seconds is 250 seconds. I must have been doing something wrong.
Group grinding is not conducive for gaining trapping xp. Your better off soloing critters at and above your CL. You get more xp per critter.
Mousekin
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:02 pm
#10
Interesting. I'm not master yet myself, on SS. I don't have any problem getting xp either, it's quite fast - too fast almost. Perception may be part of it, as I respeced some of my ranger into rifle when I finally decided which weapon to go with. And I'm "already" half way done with Ranger again, only playing casually. I think I'm like 2 - 1 - 1 - 4, and level 62. Still need Master Rifleman but comparing it with Ranger boxes, if I concentrate on creatures, I bet I'll have the other Ranger ones Im missing before I finish Master Rifleman. (This is solo, mind.)
Anyway, the trapping thread is awesome - it helped us a lot when my son's toon on Wanderhomewas working on Trapping. Having done it like a year and a half ago, on Guildy on SS, I found it quite confusing when trying to helpmy sonstart it from scratch. The latest changes they did to the xp blurbs you get ingame REALLY doesn't help too >
Calculus_Entropy
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:07 am
#11
Vorpaks wrote:
Congrats! Welcome to th... oh wait...
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
That's an interesting question. I was prepared for the worst in that I thought the trapping grind would be unbearable. Honestly, it wasn't bad at all. As Serraphin alluded to, I basically got all the XP I needed in only a few hours (spread out over a month
). If anything, the pace was too fast. I was having to go train after every few lairs, which is excessive.
BioEngine
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:15 am
#12
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Vorpaks wrote:
Congrats! Welcome to th... oh wait...
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
That's an interesting question. I was prepared for the worst in that I thought the trapping grind would be unbearable. Honestly, it wasn't bad at all. As Serraphin alluded to, I basically got all the XP I needed in only a few hours (spread out over a month
That's why you see Ranger trainers. People use it to grind FS xp, and then drop it when they get what they need......
Probably the only reason we're not lower on the "most played" scale.
Serraphin
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:17 am
#13
Agree
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Vorpaks wrote:
Congrats! Welcome to th... oh wait...
Did you find mastering Ranger more enjoyable now that Frontiering does not require wilderness xp?
That's an interesting question. I was prepared for the worst in that I thought the trapping grind would be unbearable. Honestly, it wasn't bad at all. As Serraphin alluded to, I basically got all the XP I needed in only a few hours (spread out over a month
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