Ranger Archive

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Calculus_Entropy wrote:

Caveat....it does not appear the harvesting droids give you a bonus if you are ina group, so if you are in agroup, don't count the droid.

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DaveG wrote:

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Calculus_Entropy wrote:

Caveat....it does not appear the harvesting droids give you a bonus if you are ina group, so if you are in agroup, don't count the droid.

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Do we know what does happen yet? Do you get less or is the droid "transparent" in the amount harvested? I'm logging in soon, so I'll check it out for myself anyway.

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I am referring to droids in a group, ie. sending aharvest droid to harvest while you are in a group with another Scout/Ranger seems to ignore the group bonus (probably a result of the droids ignoring grouping with just a single Scout/Ranger, which I think is intentional).

Originally droids and pets were excluded from the groups harvesting abilities. So that a scout/ranger didnt lose 40% of his harvest when running with pets and droids. I think we are still seeing that here. And i dont see a fix that gives it us both ways.

We asked for droids and pets to be removed as part of a groups harvesting calculations because it hurt us. If we turn around and ask for it to come back there are two issues. First we are being hypocrits for trying to get the best of both worlds. And second because every soloist would keep a droid or pet out with them to get the bonus.

Hey im all for it to work the second way but its not the intention of the change

There's no cap, only diminishing return.

The entire creature harvest skill mod + droid skill mod bonus + veghash skill mod + "group bonus %" is a mess that not even the Devs know exactly.

A 20% increase in the skill from 100 to 120 means next to nothing. A 20% increase in harvest is a big deal ( well, 1/5 ).

I don't have hard numbers but I believe a top of the line droid gives a master ranger about 5% more in actual harvest yield, which in turns means that grouping with Joe Blow Anybody and getting the 20% is of much more benefit.

They did a lot of work on new droids and with the recent harvest changes, deducting funds for structures directly from your bank account, the almost there galaxy vendor search they are doing their best to cancel out that work.

The recent influx of former Ultima Online staff isn't going by unnoticed, for better and for worse

So Master Ranger/TKM goes out on Yavin to get some animal bone tonight. I pulled 70-120 animal bone per creature. This was far higher then i was used to. Then i grouped with another scout 1/0/0/0. He would harvest 80 i'd get 160 or almost exactly double his haul. Is double worth all our of our skill point cost?

Um... well tonight it was. I got a HUGE haul of organics even from Yavin because of the group bonus and from the new master ranger bonus (all unbuffed of course)

I cant even imagine what i would have been able to get with veghash. But my unbuffed food kit doesnt leave room for that usually.

I was wondering about this to. About the fact that although we are at 150 now are we really at 125 and dont know it. My harvests last night were big and im really happy about it. But id sure like some confirmation one way or another on this.

Gahhhhh! Most skill mods stop at 100, the most you can add from clothes/SEAs +25, there for most mods stop at 125. Many mods have effective caps, as a rifleman 97 speed makes it so that every attack you have will fire once per second with any gun made. Once per second is the cap not 97 speed. 97 speed just runs you into the cap. Then some things just don't have caps, Rifle accuracy comes to mind.

My short time in this game has shown me if there is a cap, The FAQ tells you about it.

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-26-2005 07:05 AM