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Thread: Isn't a Ranger revamp the next logical step?

KellenNW
Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:50 am
#1

If I understand this correctly, the Antarian Rangers were a group sworn to protect and assist the Jedi at all cost - is that right?


If so, isn't it logical that a Jedi revamp should immediately be followed by a Ranger revamp so we can keep up with our Jedi allies?


Do we know what's coming up in the Publishes after the 2 Jedi updates?Any chance we could petition and push in with the first available publish? (I know this is foolishly optomistic of me, but I've got a long evening at work ahead so I need to do something to take my mind off it).


Just a series of random meandering thoughts ... feel free to ignore them.
Calculus_Entropy
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:11 am
#2






KellenNW wrote:

If I understand this correctly, the Antarian Rangers were a group sworn to protect and assist the Jedi at all cost - is that right?


If so, isn't it logical that a Jedi revamp should immediately be followed by a Ranger revamp so we can keep up with our Jedi allies?


Do we know what's coming up in the Publishes after the 2 Jedi updates?Any chance we could petition and push in with the first available publish? (I know this is foolishly optomistic of me, but I've got a long evening at work ahead so I need to do something to take my mind off it).


Just a series of random meandering thoughts ... feel free to ignore them.







Smugglers and Squad Leaders are next in line.


Now a little history on Antarian Rangers. They were not Rangers. They were a group of people how were (generally) force sensitive but could not hack it as Jedi. They decided the next best thing to being a Jedi was to assist the Jedi. They came from all walks of life like Doctors, Tailors, Merchants, etc. People often make the mistake that having 'Ranger' in the title makes it an exclusive club. Fred can probably expound on this.




Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.
Fred_Skinner
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:28 am
#3

I have looked on www.starwars.com and cannot find a thing on AR. I can find plenty in the paper RPG's, however:






The Antarian Rangers are a unique paramilitary organization of non-Force-users who, unlike many citizens of the galaxy, do not fear the power of the Jedi and actively assist them whenever possible. The Antarian Rangers dedicate their lives to acting as support troops for the Jedi, and are deployed in reconnaissance and covert operations to make the work of the Jedi easier. Often tasked with doing what some would consider the "dirty work," the Rangers are treated by the Jedi Council with indifference. The opinions of individual Jedi vary, however, and many work closely with them and truly value their service.



An organization with just over a thousand total members, the Antarian Rangers are as diverse as the Jedi they serve. Typically, those Jedi who choose to make use of the organization deal with a small group of Rangers with whom they are familiar, and rely on the same Rangers repeatedly. Some Jedi actually have semipermanent Antarian Ranger companions who travel the stars with them and assist them in a fashion similar to the Padawan-Master relationship. Whenever a Jedi wants a traveling companion or aide, typically one to three Rangers accompany him on his journeys. Otherwise, the various branches of the Antarian Rangers train, hone their skills, and prepare for a time when they will be needed to assist the Jedi in whatever way they can.



The Antarian Rangers were founded some 600 years before the Clone Wars and continued to flourish up until the rise of the Empire. On the planet Antar 4, home of the Gotal species, a Coruscant-born Human Jedi Knight named Marus Timpel was performing routine duties that brought him into contact with a being who was turned down for Jedi training. Kaskutal, a Gotal with limited Force sensitivity, had been turned away as a child by Timpel himself and had gone on to become a very successful and wealthy businessman specializing in trade negotiations and intercessions. The two become fast friends, and during their discussions, Timpel expressed his frustrations with the limitations his Jedi lifestyle put on his travels and available resources. Kaskutal, still harboring admiration for the Jedi despite being turned away, offered to help and raised funds and resources from donors and investors to create an organization to help alleviate those problems. This organization came to be known as the Antarian Rangers, and it soon spread beyond Antar 4 into the rest of the galaxy.



In the early years, the organization was small but ambitious. Kaskutal, the first true Antarian Ranger, used his minor Force sensitivity, Gotal senses, and business acumen to assist Timpel throughout the rest of his career. Upon Timpel's death, Kaskutal relegated himself to a more administrative role, seeing to it that the organization formed branches throughout the galaxy. Within 50 years, the Antarian Rangers had divisions in several well-populated systems, including Corellia, Brentaal, Ruan, and Coruscant.



Over time, the expansion throughout the Core Worlds caused the organization to become Human-dominant, but other species did join the cause and sometimes rose into positions of leadership. The Jedi, being more loosely organized at the time, did not discourage the growth of the organization, as the Rangers proved their usefulness without drawing upon Jedi resources. Thanks to good investment decisions and some savvy business deals, Kaskutal ensured that the Rangers were financially stable, if not overly wealthy.



As the Clone Wars approached and the Jedi Council took a more traditionalist stance in policy, the Rangers found fewer and fewer Jedi calling upon them for help. Some branches disbanded due to inactivity, while others used their combat training and entrepreneurial skills to become freelance mercenaries or sector defense forces.



The organization, reduced to less than half its former size, found a brief revitalization with the onset of the Clone Wars. The Rangers found themselves suddenly in demand; the Jedi, outnumbered and unable to sufficiently defend the galaxy against the threat of the Separatists, once again called upon the Rangers for aid. As Jedi-Ranger pairings become more commonplace once more, the group saw a brief surge in membership before the rise of the Empire.



As the Sith Lord Darth Vader and the Emperor eradicated the Jedi, the Antarian Rangers found themselves hunted in a similar fashion. With a bounty on the heads of the known Rangers and the threat of Inquisitors looming over them, the remaining branches of the Antarian Rangers went into hiding. One group of Antarian Rangers, led by a Feeorin named Solm, openly opposed the tyranny of the Empire, but for the most part the Rangers went into seclusion or disbanded entirely in order to avoid capture. The hidden enclave at Toprawa, home of Wraith Squadron member Tyria Sarkin, was eliminated by the Empire in a case that became typical of the eventual destruction of the Rangers.



With Luke Skywalker's Jedi Order rising after the defeat of the Empire, a small group of Antarian Rangers from the old days has tried to revitalize the organization with limited success. Primarily assisting with Luke Skywalker's "Great River" and helping combat the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, this new group of Rangers numbers at no more than 50 or 60 beings.







Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


KellenNW
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:34 am
#4

Thanks for enlightening me!


Anyway ... we should be next. Think if we replace the word "Smuggler" with "Ranger" on the Devs internal memo's, they'll revamp us instead?
Phenix1050
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:40 am
#5

only if we send them hooch or um...foraged *ahem* herbs.



PHE'NIX ANTARUS
BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
Seraph00X
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:41 am
#6

yeah, but only if you want rangers to be reduced to the role of thieves, criminals, drug dealers, blah blah blah

smugglers really have it coming though... I mean seriously, is there anything to smuggle in SWG?



cheers-
Serje Misre, Master Ranger, Kauri
Pas Ok'Lya, master schleper, Test Center

"Even though the Old Republic didn't work, I'd rather have a government run by beuraucrats than run by a dictator willing to destroy an entire planet in order to flush out a handful of dissidents."
Fred_Skinner
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:45 am
#7

...and... I'm guessing that sense most of what I see in game comes from the stuff you see in www.starwars.comand classical MMORPGs you may find little to nothing that helps us make an AR as accessable as BH are in game. I say this, because you could argue that the BH and Smuggler prof are pobably not really professions and can be crafted with changes to the combat and artisanprofs and they made them seperate profs instead. I don't see them institutionalizing AR. I think Ranger was a nod to the MMOs and computer RPGsof the past more then this consideration.



Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


Oculus
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:56 am
#8


Fred_Skinner wrote:

The Antarian Rangers are a unique paramilitary organization of non-Force-users who, unlike many citizens of the galaxy, do not fear the power of the Jedi and actively assist them whenever possible.

Of course they are non-Force-users they don't have any skillpoints left

Once Publish 10 hits I'll try the FS quest. If I get it before we get our love, I'm dropping Ranger.




Oku Kee'lus
Master Ranger | Master Carbineer

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