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Thread: Creature Resource Type Bug Thread
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Owen-Lars
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:30 pm
#1
Ok we have had a good few threads opening up the last couple of weeks about mistakes the devs have made about certain types of creature resources. Such things as Lantern Birds on Endor having Herbivor Meat instead of Avian.
Id like to compile the known and confirmed cases of resource type bugs and address them all in one well organised thread. Hopefull it wouldnt take much to get the devs to fix these or hand them a copy of this thread to work on in the future.
So there you have it:
Send me your resource type bugs (Pm or reply to this post) and ill get to work on it:
Creature Organic Resource Type Bugs
ENDOR
Name: Lantern Bird
Planet: Endor
Resource Type: Herbivor Meat
Should Be: Avian Meat
LOK
Name: Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Dune Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Enraged Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Enraged Dune Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Giant Dune Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Giant Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Hatchling Kimogila
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
DANTOOINE
Name: Piket
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Piket Longhorn
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Piket Longhorn Female
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Piket Plains Walker
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Enraged Defender (Piket)
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Fierce Piket Protector
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Quenker
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Bile Drenched Quenker
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Quenker Ravager
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Quenker Relic Reaper
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Savage Quenker
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: TerribleQuenker
Resource Type: -NONE-
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Voritor Lizard
Resource Type: Avian Bone
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Vexed Voritor Lizard
Resource Type: Avian Bone
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Voritor Dasher
Resource Type: Avian Bone
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Slinking Voritor Hunter
Resource Type: Avian Bone
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Horned Voritor Lizard
Resource Type: Avian Bone
Should Be: Animal Bone
Name: Grassland Voritor Tracker
Resource Type: Avian Bone
Should Be: Animal Bone
More Coming Soon
Message Edited by Owen-Lars on 08-21-2004 11:33 PM
Eklectrick
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:54 pm
#2
according to a quick check on SWGcreatures;
Endor:
Gurrek Forrest Stalker has no bones. (normal gurreks have animal bones)
noxious squill has no bones or hide
Festering squill has no bones or hide
mantigrue reaper has no bones and it has whooly hide ( a sort of reptillian flying creature )
bark mite burrower queen has avian bone??? (other bark mite variations have no bones at all which is reasonable for insects)
roba pack leader has no bones
Also note that the blurrg family have avian bone. Questionable?
none of these have been confirmed by me as of yet, this is just what I looked up quickly on SWGcreatures. I would trust their information would be pretty accurate, but I think they should be visually confirmed by a ranger in the live game.
Endor:
Gurrek Forrest Stalker has no bones. (normal gurreks have animal bones)
noxious squill has no bones or hide
Festering squill has no bones or hide
mantigrue reaper has no bones and it has whooly hide ( a sort of reptillian flying creature )
bark mite burrower queen has avian bone??? (other bark mite variations have no bones at all which is reasonable for insects)
roba pack leader has no bones
Also note that the blurrg family have avian bone. Questionable?
none of these have been confirmed by me as of yet, this is just what I looked up quickly on SWGcreatures. I would trust their information would be pretty accurate, but I think they should be visually confirmed by a ranger in the live game.
Owen-Lars
Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:20 pm
#3
cool mate thanks, ill try to confirm some 2morow or monday depending if i have time, goto sleep now, busy day today.
Aileili
Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:12 pm
#4
Tortons (huge turtles) on Rori have Wooly Hide. Shouldn't it be Leathery or Scaley?
As for the Avian Bones in reptilian creatures like Voritorand Blurrg, I don't have much problem with this since reptiles are commonly considered the progenitors of avians.
I think Avian Bones are used in some cases just to represent light bone structures.
superBOY5
Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:21 pm
#5
Dantooine, Mother Thune or something... Totally unharvestable no meat, hide, or bone, nor milk from what I can remember.
frightwig
Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:20 pm
#7
Name - Vir Vur
Planet - Rori
Resource - Avian
Should be - Herbivore, I'm guessing.. (Rabbit like creatures)
Of course, if this were changed, Avian would be even harder to find on Rori
Tortons on Rori were also mentioned in a previous post (Turtles with wooly hide). I always enjoy hunting them when there's a good wooly shift, though, so I'd be sad to see it changed honestly. I always tell myself that there's a layer of wool underneath the large scales, just to make it somewhat believable.
But I can't explain avian meat on rabbits.
Planet - Rori
Resource - Avian
Should be - Herbivore, I'm guessing.. (Rabbit like creatures)
Of course, if this were changed, Avian would be even harder to find on Rori
Tortons on Rori were also mentioned in a previous post (Turtles with wooly hide). I always enjoy hunting them when there's a good wooly shift, though, so I'd be sad to see it changed honestly.
I always tell myself that there's a layer of wool underneath the large scales, just to make it somewhat believable. But I can't explain avian meat on rabbits.
Calculus_Entropy
Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:20 pm
#8
Keep in mind that the devs don't necessarily see these as bugs. They specifically told the docs in one of the 19 questions that latern birds were not bugged, but they just happened to end up with herb meat...
Ailsa
Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:13 am
#9
Vir Vurs on Rori drop Avian Meat - they should drop herbivore meat (imho since they look like little rabbits).
dhcpSilicon
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:12 pm
#10
They'd better not "fix" the Voritor avian bone without also replacing the requirement on Wookiee armor or some limbs will be torn from their sockets =)
Owen-Lars
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:28 pm
#11
Hehe im sure they wont change a thing, just good to have a collection of info that tells people what creaturesdrop the resource types that are often unexpected or 'wierd'.
Eklectrick
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:35 pm
#12
Calculus_Entropy wrote:Keep in mind that the devs don't necessarily see these as bugs. They specifically told the docs in one of the 19 questions that latern birds were not bugged, but they just happened to end up with herb meat...
Yes, I can see how they don't concider them bugs, but its as if they drew names from a hat to pick the resources of some of these creatures. I view this as carelessness on the part of the devs. I mean some you can explain as "they are ailen creatures and have evolved differently thus giving them an unexpected type of resource" but there are too many discrepencies for that to hold water. I think all we are trying to do is say, at least make these believeable. non-insect creatures with no bones just don't make sense. creatures in the same "family" shouldn't have drasticly differen't types of bones or hides. How difficult would it be to take all the creatures in the database, organise them by planet, and assign logical resources to each one on a per creature basis?
Un4tun8
Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:46 pm
#13
Regarding the 'alien' nature of creatures: one of the SWG loading screens says that Rancor is a mix of crustacean and arachne. That's definitely weird. It's probably taken from SWreferencebut I have not checked myself. Shouldn't Rancor have insect meat then?No bones? Scaley hide?
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