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Thread: Post CU- Master Ranger/Bounty Hunter?
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CDR-owns-you
Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:27 pm
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does anyon eelse think this is a good template? its my current template on the test center
honestly, its more of a "fun" template, than anything else (was also thinking bh/ch)
can someone tell me what ranger would have to offer with bh? besides area track of course
thanks in advance
honestly, its more of a "fun" template, than anything else (was also thinking bh/ch)
can someone tell me what ranger would have to offer with bh? besides area track of course
thanks in advance
Noghrilover
Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:55 pm
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That is my planned template for when the CU goes live. It will be very fun because I like to roleplay an Outdoorsman Bounty Hunter. I really see no use to the Bounty Hunter lifestyle from Ranger except Area Track though. But, that does not mean it is useless altogether. I will have that template because it is fun for me. See if it is fun for you! 
CDR-owns-you
Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:08 pm
#3
Noghrilover wrote:That is my planned template for when the CU goes live. It will be very fun because I like to roleplay an Outdoorsman Bounty Hunter. I really see no use to the Bounty Hunter lifestyle from Ranger except Area Track though. But, that does not mean it is useless altogether. I will have that template because it is fun for me. See if it is fun for you!
i like what your saying, i've been pretty seroius in stocking up for the cu, but then realized i'd rather havea more fun expierance with the game
this temp is pretty appealing =)
thanks for your input
DaveG
Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:20 am
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Yeah, I've had my eye on that template every since I saw the new pre-requisits.
I'm going to try both Master Rifleman, and Master Bounty Hunter on TC. Bounty Hunter has much better offensive role, you just loose the stealth of the rifleman. Which is a big thing for me, stealth is the reason I took rifleman in the first place. With bounty hunter, it's effectively less skill points for us because of the scout exploration line we have in common for pre-requisits.
I think bounty hunter is a good compliment for ranger (you become a hunter of all things!), but I'm not so sure it's as good in reverse. What I mean is that while bounty hunter gives us lots of combat abilities that will aid us in hunting. However, all ranger can compliment BH with is tracking skills. If we went hunting a jedi, we'd be slightly better at finding them out in the open, but our ranger skills wouldn't help us fight the jedi.
I like the role play side of it though. On my server, as well as being a professional hunter, I'm also the head of militia in my town, so BH seems like a good profession to have for that job. My in-game hobby is "space ranger". I hunt gunships. So adding BH to my template means I hunt everything, man, beast and ships.
Tarnak_Archvold
Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:19 am
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Have any of you tried a BH Ranger combo on the TC? If not I suggest you do before you start dreaming to much. This is not to be a troll or to bring you down, just keeping my feet on the ground, and from what I have seen BH do not have enough offensive power to help ranger on its own, and ranger do not give enough offensive power to help a BH take down his marks.
AgonThalia
Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:23 am
#6
I do have a ranger/ BH combo/ SL 0300 Character on TC right now.
and the skills are impressive, however, because the damage calculations are sooo screwy right now, I regularly get incapped by kaduu.
Sometimes i win, sometimes i dont, and on live, I can 1 shot a kaduu.... I dont think that TC right now gives you a good sense of what the actual viability will be just yet.
DaveG
Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:17 am
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Hmm, speaking of those calculations, I wonder if they're going to stick to their "It will go out when it's ready" line, or if they'll just stick out in any old state to co-incide with the movie release?
Nemo0
Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:45 am
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BH really seems more like an enhancer profession than a stand alone combat profession. It does work as a stand alone profession but it works a LOT better if you combine it with a focused weapon profession. The extra mods and abilities work much better when combined with a weapon specific profession than they do alone. It will work alone but you will still lose out a bit.
frightwig
Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:58 am
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Yeah, I agree with Lythender.. I think MBH has some good mods in the master box, and full assault armor mitigation..
But I've been testing with a template that enhances my rifles/carbines better than just going for MBH. Master carbineer/rifleman with BH 0404 gives you extra ranged/melee defense, plus more accuracy and speed for your rifles and carbines.. (It also leaves 4sp for 4 fs boxes).
There are some good state specials with that too. I can only do the lowest BH missions, but I find the 0404 dabbling more useful with the added defenses and specials.
I've been meaning to test out 0040 ranger with master rifles and 0004 BH.. maybe spend the leftover SP in ranger or another weapon profession... or master marksman with that, if possible. Can't remember the SP requirements..
Ranger in the CU desperately needs some ranged/melee defense and General weapon speed/accuracy mods.
But I've been testing with a template that enhances my rifles/carbines better than just going for MBH. Master carbineer/rifleman with BH 0404 gives you extra ranged/melee defense, plus more accuracy and speed for your rifles and carbines.. (It also leaves 4sp for 4 fs boxes).
There are some good state specials with that too. I can only do the lowest BH missions, but I find the 0404 dabbling more useful with the added defenses and specials.
I've been meaning to test out 0040 ranger with master rifles and 0004 BH.. maybe spend the leftover SP in ranger or another weapon profession... or master marksman with that, if possible. Can't remember the SP requirements..
Ranger in the CU desperately needs some ranged/melee defense and General weapon speed/accuracy mods.
Tarnak_Archvold
Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:15 pm
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Jolandir wrote:
One draw back it that it limits your armor negation bonuses (doesn't that sound counterdictory?), since Ranger gets Battle Armor and BH gets Assualt armor. This means you can never use Advance Battle or Assault armor because of the necessity needing two masters with the same armor class to reach this capability. Even though you need to do a second branch in Marksman the only other marksman branch that supports Battle Armor is Carbineer.
Where have you gotten that idea from?
With every template I have tested, I have chosen advanced armour from the frogs, and when examining that armour I can se that I have zero hindrance wit it.
With 60% in say Battle armour accuracy migration, you can wear armour that has up to 60% in accuracy plenty without getting affected at all.
The highest hindrance on any of the advanced armour peaces have been 0.1% less then the migration achieved at master.
frightwig
Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:51 pm
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Jolandir wrote:One draw back it that it limits your armor negation bonuses (doesn't that sound counterdictory?), since Ranger gets Battle Armor and BH gets Assualt armor. This means you can never use Advance Battle or Assault armor because of the necessity needing two masters with the same armor class to reach this capability. Even though you need to do a second branch in Marksman the only other marksman branch that supports Battle Armor is Carbineer.
Hmm... Tarnak is right.. There's no need for double mastery for the same armor type cert.
For example, a master ranger with no combat skills would be fully mitigated for battle armor.
The best way is to check your armor in your pack.. It will show, and update, penalties based on your skill.
I'm only dabbling in BH (0404), but I have no weapon speed penalties and only -6% for accuracy when wearing Assault armor. (I have no other profession that certs me for assault armor).
In other words, a MBH/Master Ranger would have no penalties while wearing either assault armor or battle armor.
Message Edited by frightwig on 04-23-2005 05:52 PM
Jolandir
Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:43 am
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With M Ranger BH is definitely one of the good choices since you only have to go up combat support in marksman, and you already have the TN in scout. One draw back it that it limits your armor negation bonuses (doesn't that sound counterdictory?), since Ranger gets Battle Armor and BH gets Assualt armor. This means you can never use Advance Battle or Assault armor because of the necessity needing two masters with the same armor class to reach this capability. Even though you need to do a second branch in Marksman the only other marksman branch that supports Battle Armor is Carbineer. They do have some nice specials as a well and you can use anything that is not a signature weapon in another profession just like you can with BH.
The need to master Scout limits how much SP you have, especially if you decide you really want to M Ranger, so at best you will be able to master one other elite or basic profession. I have read in the Rifleman, Carbineer and BH forums that they are really recommending not mastering Marksman as this may give you some good general defensive, accuracy, speed, and offensive bonuses but does not give the best in these nor does it give good specials, and duplicates a lot. So you really need to stick with one other Elite Combat Profession.
The current status of the CU also makes it clear that M Ranger/M CH is not a good option, since yes you will get creatures who can help you, but since you are limited to level 70 with your creature and just to get even with a white con will require level 80, and with the fact that everything, yellow or red, aggressive or non-aggressive will aggro on to you and your pet, your pet will die rather quickly (just remember if you are a level 70 and attack a level 80 you have really no hope of winning alone and they will incaps you almost immediately, this applies to your pet as well), then they will all aggro on you. Also with this combination you do not get any specials or signature weapons from either Elite Profession so your own ability to survive is going to severly handicapped. (I am really sad about this as one of rangers is a M CH, oh well).
Jolandir
FBI_Zen
Sat May 21, 2005 4:00 pm
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I was thinking of trying for M Ranger/M BH also for the stealth skills of ranger.
Does the ranger camo ability (that says it works on players) give any benefit to BH hunting jedi? Does it allow you to sneak up on your mark without being visible on radar?
If anyone who has experience with Ranger stealh skills, let us know how it worked out for you.
Does the ranger camo ability (that says it works on players) give any benefit to BH hunting jedi? Does it allow you to sneak up on your mark without being visible on radar?
If anyone who has experience with Ranger stealh skills, let us know how it worked out for you.
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