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Delta, if we want to use this one cool, but if you want to start an official one with your name on it, it might get more attention.

I know it's a new skill and all, and so we don't exactly know if things are bugs, or that's just how it's supposed to work. But that is why I wanted to start this. With new things like this added to the games, there is no official documentation of how it's supposed to work. I mean, I spoke to a ranger friend of mine yesterday, and he never even heard of conceal or a camo kit. We don't know what to expect from these new things, so we don't know if its working right or not.

So far, after a painful experience trying to get my resources for the camo kit, I'm not impressed with conceal. I know all the posts about the flora part, and I have my own complaints. The fact that I opened up my Bazaar to the galaxy, and not a single Tatooine Wild oat was being sold. Lucky for me, I have novice artisan still, and so I built me a flora survey device and started searching. I took me a half hour of wandering around to even find a deposit big enough to sample from. It makes sence of course, hard to find plant life on a desert planet, but it makes it difficult to make camo kits. So after about 1.5 hours of sampling to spots(and of course racking up the survival xp) I got me 150 or so wild oats.

I sat and made a whole bunch of camo kits. I put one on, and traveled through desert. Well I got agroed by some desert demon thugs in the desert. Mind you, I have a little bit of negative fac for them, but I had conceal on. Isn't it supposed to hide me from NPC's? It wore out after about 5 minutes. Again, not impressed. It didn't say, "something detected you", it said it wore off. Well for the amount of time spent collecting the resources, and the number of resources used, 5 minutes is truly not worth it. Novice scout with mask scent lasts longer.

The other part I think should be changed is the state icon. It uses the same nose as mask scent. Could be confusing running around hunting, as to if you have mask scent on or conceal, and considering you cant use both. If I'm not sure, I don't want to cancel my conceal to find out, when it costs so much to make kit. The other part that should be changed is the message. It said, "your mask scent has worn off." When my conceal wore off.

My other thoughts on it are this. Is conceal supposed to be better then mask scent? I ask, because a ranger has the best mask scent. What is the ensentive to use conceal over mask scent, when traveling cross country? It's supposed to be against NPC also, but if simple thugs ignore it, why bother using the conceal. I would rather use my mask scent to hide from creatures. It seems that conceal, should be a little better then mask scent against creatures, with the addition of hiding against NPC.

So Delta, can you try to find out, just what exactly is conceal supposed to work against, and how? Find out about the state icon and messages? What is it's level of effectivness compared to mask scent, against creatures? If these are stated in some online place, then can you please tell us where? Otherwise, it would be nice that, when they implement something this new, to post a manual for it, or maybe tell us, it's added to the holocron. Otherwise we are floudering in the dark. As it is, unless people are on the forums a lot, they might not even know about this stuff.

Thanks, Delta.

Squid,

When I get a moment, I'll starta /conceal thread and sticky it to the top of the forum.

I'll do my best to get this information, but most of the people I need to talk to aren't around right now - but as soon as I get in touch with them, I'll let you all know.

B

That sounds good about the post. As for the questions, I didn't expect anything on a Sunday, and all we ask is that you do your best. Which is usually pretty good.

THanks Delta...I was also wondering this.

I was out near Kor Vella on Corellia last night. I noticed a ton of Flail butchers in the area. I figured that I would give the camo kit another try. I use up the last of my corellian bones that I had on me. Make the kit...apply it and slowly walk around the NPC that was near me. I did click on the NPC once to see how far away he was from me....58m. As I was "walking" further away...there it happend. The combat music comes on and I lose my conceal from the NPC. 58m away . I was not to impressed by the conceal kit at all.

Ric,

I think it's a bit buggy where NPCs come in.

It was working great last night on Yavin 4 for me.

B