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Thread: Kago and gang, Even the CSRs avoid the Ranger forums, Seen one lately.

Serraphin
Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:01 pm
#1

The subject says it all.
Serraphin
Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:41 pm
#2

Nope
Nemo0
Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:55 pm
#3

CSRs avoid our forum because we don't need them here. Unlike many forums, we seem to moderate ourselves reasonably well. CSRs don't do much other than make sure people stay within the rules. Calc almost certainly has more say with the Devs than the CSRs do on the importantissues.


Lythender Nirou
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Lythender Nirou
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Serraphin
Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:15 pm
#4

He has no more sway withthe devs than you do. That I think has become very apparent. No I would argue that he is merely their "windshield" and we are the "annoying" bugs.
Kiryoku
Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:18 pm
#5

serraph,i understand the frustration... i'm not happy with the way ranger is now either... i also know that what TH said was basically "we got nothing right now"... and yet, i'm still hopeful...


we have a ton of folks arguing back and forth about whether or not we'll actually be getting something two months down the line... theoptimists say "yes, TH implied it", the realists (trying to be fair here) say "they imply all the time, with no changes to date"... but what are we really arguing about?.. it's definitely not that changes are needed, we are all in agreement there... we're basically arguing over our interpretations of a vague response, to the general question of "do the devs know we're busted?"... so that's what we're arguing about, what i can't figure out is why we are arguing... we allknow that any changes will be a long way off...


we all want ranger to be better than it is, we just have different methods for trying to see to it that we get better...i think what you're seeing as apathy toward our plight is really just a group of people who honestly feel that changes are coming...we're not apathetic because we still try... and we're not happy... but we think we will be someday...


i even think you have a little bit of that in you... you definitely are hopeful, or else you wouldn't even try...


the only thing i think that seperates your method from mine, is that i feel one long thread does more than many short ones... also, i think that multiple threads have a tendancy to bump important issues off the front page... now i may not believe that any developer or TH ever looks, but if they should i want all of our issues right up at the top...


i know you're unhappy... there are lots of us that are... the very minutei hit 100 posts and gain veteran status, i'm editing the "if you are leaving" post to "if you are unhappy"... please, post in there with yourcomplaints - even if you disagree with my method, it can't hurt even if i'm wrong...




kago

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Serraphin
Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:28 pm
#6






Kiryoku wrote:

serraph,i understand the frustration... i'm not happy with the way ranger is now either... i also know that what TH said was basically "we got nothing right now"... and yet, i'm still hopeful...


we have a ton of folks arguing back and forth about whether or not we'll actually be getting something two months down the line... theoptimists say "yes, TH implied it", the realists (trying to be fair here) say "they imply all the time, with no changes to date"... but what are we really arguing about?.. it's definitely not that changes are needed, we are all in agreement there... we're basically arguing over our interpretations of a vague response, to the general question of "do the devs know we're busted?"... so that's what we're arguing about, what i can't figure out is why we are arguing... we allknow that any changes will be a long way off...


we all want ranger to be better than it is, we just have different methods for trying to see to it that we get better...i think what you're seeing as apathy toward our plight is really just a group of people who honestly feel that changes are coming...we're not apathetic because we still try... and we're not happy... but we think we will be someday...


i even think you have a little bit of that in you... you definitely are hopeful, or else you wouldn't even try...


the only thing i think that seperates your method from mine, is that i feel one long thread does more than many short ones... also, i think that multiple threads have a tendancy to bump important issues off the front page... now i may not believe that any developer or TH ever looks, but if they should i want all of our issues right up at the top...


i know you're unhappy... there are lots of us that are... the very minutei hit 100 posts and gain veteran status, i'm editing the "if you are leaving" post to "if you are unhappy"... please, post in there with yourcomplaints - even if you disagree with my method, it can't hurt even if i'm wrong...






Fair enough Kago. Even I can compromise.


Uziel


Kiryoku
Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:33 pm
#7

/wookieehug serraphin


mm... just so everybody knows... that was a manly, rangerly hug...



kago

-------------------------------------------------------
Skunkworks Ship Designs and Body Shop
A 10/15/12/17/10/10/17 point FS Shipwright (ridiculous, no?).
Custom Starship Components
(5708, 467) Valinor, Dantooine
JBMat
Sun May 02, 2004 4:07 am
#8

Well, yeah actually.


I had a post deleted after I flamed some cry-baby and he whined and snivled. I was so proud.


Thx Garva.


JB



Nemo0
Sun May 02, 2004 5:32 am
#9






JBMat wrote:

Well, yeah actually.


I had a post deleted after I flamed some cry-baby and he whined and snivled. I was so proud.


Thx Garva.


JB










ROFL. Nice. I'm impressed.


Lythender Nirou
Master Ranger/Master Rifleman
Eclipse Server




Lythender Nirou
Crazy Bothan


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