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Can anyone answer? I'm a 3-4-3-4 ranger

Can someone please enlighten me on the differences between conceal and mask scent?

In a practical sense - no. This is my opinion so take it for what it's worth but I never saw much practical difference in detection rates between the two.

NRass ran the numbers I think - conceal works at a 98% base while maskscent is at 95% base. That then drops based on what you are doing (running, walking, etc).

Maskscent is free however - while camo kits require various resources and crafting. When I had ranger skills I never used anything but maskscent and was perfectly happy.

I have to agree, that it just is not practical. It last longer, and has that ever so slightly more effective, but the costs are just not worth it. If you happen to have someone lacking maskscent in your group, which I rarely encounter, then it is semi useful. With so many of the professions being based off of scout, and Vehicles being able to justzip past any threats before they spawn,you will rarely ever find a need for it. I actually find traps more useful currently then I do /conceal.

thanks for the info guys - guess i won't be bothering much with conceal then

Also, when I used conceal it would also seem to bug up maskscent afterwards until I logged. Which basically meant that after conceal ran out and I tried to maskscent, the little nose icon would appear but creatures would still see me just fine as though I didn't have maskscent up at all. This would normally last until I logged. Don't know if it's still wonky like this.

I haven't bothered with conceal at all for a couple of months partially due to this.

lol, well i think that is still bugged and explains my problems earlier!

I hunted on Talus for a bit as that is where my house was (with /conceal). Got doc buffs and went to hunt on endor for some bigger game, every red agro dot noticed me, most attacked, never ONCE got any scout XP for going past un-noticed. that was with mask scent, only 3424 ranger at the moment!

will make sure next time I DONT use conceal, ever ;-)

One benefit of conceal (apparently, not tested yet) is when you apply to others YOU getthe scout xp, not them. when you are master ranger though this is not exactly anything worth jumping up and down over!

oh well, bring on the milking! ;-) (see milk post)!

I use both Conceal and Maskscent, but obviously not at the same time.

If I'm running from one place to another I'll use Maskscent. It works, and it's free.

When I'm hunting I'll use Conceal. As a Rifleman, right now I can take down a 6k HAM creature solo in about 4-6 shots. If I kneel and use Maskscent I'll get off 2 shots and the mob will attack me. If I kneel while Concealed, I can usually get at least 4 shots before they attack me. So there is a difference, it just depends on what you need it for.

Obviously I, like every other ranger, use mask scent a ton and it seems to work just fine. When I was two boxes into wayfairing I did a went on Tatooine with a group and very excitedly made up a bunch of cammo kits for the group to use, showing off my shiny new ranger skills. The doctor we went with buffed our statistics. The chef we were with handed out food to help us, and the bio engineer gave out pet stims for our pets. I thought I'd be helpful and cammo everyone up, trying to contribute something to the group. Well, it took all of about 2 min before everyone's (including my own) cammo was broken by even the most measly aggro creatures. I applied it again and again it broke the very first time we got within sniffing ranger of a low-level aggro creature. I used mask scent for the rest of the night and it never broken once. Never used cammo again after that experience.

I just tried to stop using camo kits and my maskscent is bugged too. I've logged twice now and I still get creamed by a dozen reds every 10 steps even though my little nose icon is up.

"will make sure next time I DONT use conceal, ever ;-)"

Ya, that's pretty much been my motto since getting master ranger.

conceal is worthless. Its nice to use on Master BE's so they can go get samples off something big and aggrod but other than that I use it to paint my walls. I know it supposed to be more effective than /mask but I never noticed. Mask holds for just about everything and I really dont think the +3% is worth it. I've been a Master Ranger for 2 months now and It is the coolest useless profession in the game (save for tracking, the range of which is way too short). I get so sick of putting down a high tech field base and the base attracts (yes it does) aggro's. Then to make matters worse I either kill it and my camps goes away or I stand there and watch my buddies kill it. Sorry to rant, I just think this profession was put together in llike an hour by some guy who was told to make a "slightly better scout" I will be dropping it soon to holo grind (Master Tailor) but I will be back when it gets fixed. The only thing I can't complain about is our correspondent who is really pushing hard for us.

Krunkert

Thanks for quick reply there NRaas! I know what I have to do then.