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Thread: Retrospect.....

Rancorrider4
Fri May 27, 2005 7:03 am
#1

Just thought I would throw some things out there for you all to review and compare. Kind of gives you an idea of what the Development team and TH think of us:


http://members.shaw.ca/nraas/ranger/outdoorsman.html:never responded to.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=34149&view=by_date_ascending&page=1:Understand that with this link several things have changed since, especially just before the CU and then after. Again a point of reference for what still needs to be fixed.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=31880&view=by_date_ascending&page=1: The Dev team stating our proposal for stealth would never see the light of day as it's "too unbalancing". Now it belongs to Jedi and Riflemen.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=155152#M155152 : More notes from Thunderheart on how they are "going to address the camp situation". Still unresolved. Please note the post from TH only as this is in the CH forum.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=32657#M32657: Given to everyone with the Rage of the Wookies expansion


This is just a start and if someone can clicky them I would be most appreciative. Not trying to be overly negative or anything, butI find it most disappointing that all of this still has yet to even be looked at let alone addressed.


Opinions are very welcome.


Respectfully,


Oppma




nppmaHamus

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Master Mountain Climber


JascoSmlee
Fri May 27, 2005 7:09 am
#2







Rancorrider4 wrote:



This is just a start and if someone can clicky them I would be most appreciative.


Sorry I tried but the Lithium HTML monster ate it and I cba a second time


/edit and I just read followed all those links and now I want to cry

Message Edited by JascoSmlee on 05-27-2005 03:13 PM



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SickSix
Fri May 27, 2005 7:19 am
#3




Rancorrider4 wrote:

Just thought I would throw some things out there for you all to review and compare. Kind of gives you an idea of what the Development team and TH think of us:


clickme! :never responded to.


clickme! :Understand that with this link several things have changed since, especially just before the CU and then after. Again a point of reference for what still needs to be fixed.


clickme! : The Dev team stating our proposal for stealth would never see the light of day as it's "too unbalancing". Now it belongs to Jedi and Riflemen.


clickmetoo! : More notes from Thunderheart on how they are "going to address the camp situation". Still unresolved. Please note the post from TH only as this is in the CH forum.


iwanttobeclicked!: Given to everyone with the Rage of the Wookies expansion


This is just a start and if someone can clicky them I would be most appreciative. Not trying to be overly negative or anything, butI find it most disappointing that all of this still has yet to even be looked at let alone addressed.


Opinions are very welcome.


Respectfully,


Oppma










SickSix
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HadesNNHellriders
You're supposed to sit here
and die while I poison you.

Rolfie
Fri May 27, 2005 7:32 am
#4

I am not flaming, I know venting can be a useful outlet for frustration.


Short of a miracle Rangers are not going to be addressed until Smugglers and Squad Leaders are addressed.


So why put yourself's through this with this thread?








Rolfie Master Ranger, Bantha Poo FTW

Rancorrider4
Fri May 27, 2005 7:40 am
#5






Rolfie wrote:

I am not flaming, I know venting can be a useful outlet for frustration.


Short of a miracle Rangers are not going to be addressed until Smugglers and Squad Leaders are addressed.


So why put yourself's through this with this thread?








I am hoping that a Dev team member or TH or someone will take notice of this. If nothing else I'm hoping enough Ranger's notice this and start to understand how much we Ranger's have been through and are still waiting for.



nppmaHamus

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Master Mountain Climber


BioEngine
Fri May 27, 2005 8:05 am
#6

Thanks for this, Rancorrider4. I'll add it to our list asap.



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AgonThalia
Fri May 27, 2005 8:43 am
#7

Brilliant work as usual bud.



Tragic and sad honestly.... we could be so much more.


Like ive said, if i stop having fun being a ranger, i will no longer be a ranger. Right now, i am having a blast.





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Rancorrider4
Fri May 27, 2005 9:46 am
#8

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=6146#M6146


This one is interesting as it specifically quotes GreenMarine talking about the soon to be released "hunting blind" that we had been promised.



nppmaHamus

o Galactic Geographic Explorero

Master Mountain Climber


Rancorrider4
Fri May 27, 2005 9:50 am
#9






Rancorrider4 wrote:

Just thought I would throw some things out there for you all to review and compare. Kind of gives you an idea of what the Development team and TH think of us:


http://members.shaw.ca/nraas/ranger/outdoorsman.html:never responded to.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=34149&view=by_date_ascending&page=1:Understand that with this link several things have changed since, especially just before the CU and then after. Again a point of reference for what still needs to be fixed.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=31880&view=by_date_ascending&page=1: The Dev team stating our proposal for stealth would never see the light of day as it's "too unbalancing". Now it belongs to Jedi and Riflemen.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=155152#M155152 : More notes from Thunderheart on how they are "going to address the camp situation". Still unresolved. Please note the post from TH only as this is in the CH forum.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=32657#M32657: Given to everyone with the Rage of the Wookies expansion


This is just a start and if someone can clicky them I would be most appreciative. Not trying to be overly negative or anything, butI find it most disappointing that all of this still has yet to even be looked at let alone addressed.


Opinions are very welcome.


Respectfully,


Oppma






http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=5725&view=by_date_ascending&page=1


and I believe this one goes to page one, where all the really cool stuff we were promised is listed in great detail. None of which has ever come to fruition.







nppmaHamus

o Galactic Geographic Explorero

Master Mountain Climber


JascoSmlee
Fri May 27, 2005 9:52 am
#10

"I want to emphasize that some of these changes are large enough that they will take a while."





Jasco Smlee Antarian Ranger
Nosn Nuub +2 Starfighter Engineer
kNuubian Tech : Rori, Rebel Outpost : /way 3732 -6620
Rancorrider4
Fri May 27, 2005 9:59 am
#11






JascoSmlee wrote:

"I want to emphasize that some of these changes are large enough that they will take a while."








qfe


I thought this may interest some of us that are looking to see how Mask Scent and Camoflauge is checked and gauged.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=scout&message.id=7475#M7475


and this one makes me LOL. Please note we have now not only gone through Mineras, but N'Raas, various stints with Delta, Calculus, and now Owen while waiting on fixes for our profession.



Message Edited by Rancorrider4 on 05-27-2005 01:04 PM



nppmaHamus

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Master Mountain Climber


Rancorrider4
Fri May 27, 2005 2:51 pm
#12

Well I lost the last link. It was rather long ago anyway, quoting Holocron (Raph Koster, Former Director of SWG) stating to stay with it, and that he and the Dev team would continue to work with Mineras (our first Ranger correspondent) and get these new skills out to us, and get them done soon.


I'll find more soon. Please read these, it is important stuff.





nppmaHamus

o Galactic Geographic Explorero

Master Mountain Climber


JBMat
Fri May 27, 2005 4:04 pm
#13

I can sum up the entire original post in a short sentence:


Ignore the Rangers


I mean, really - who cares? We are low density, rarely complain, and while we can kick butt and harvest like fiends we get no love from the devs. A few of us have voiced honest opinions and gotten banned for it. We are forced to fight the same fights over the same issues time after time (e.g. - maskscent dropping when entering combat - a fight Brisc won on the Scout board with Greenmarine almost 18 months ago that was resurrected recently) It's not that the Devs don't care - they clearly don't - but they never get bugged too much from us for us to matter. If we were higher density and threatened in l33t speak to leave, they would care. If we go to the Jedi board and whine, they would care; but only if we were Jedi. We are basically non-entities in the grand scheme of things, a source of free gifts to other professions.


I know that I am not selling camo kits for love nor mad credits. The artisans can continue to get eaten by wild durnis and I personally will applaud their deaths. Pass the popcorn please. They want to be all master artisan like, oh well, you get ate by durnis. Until I get free use of rez kits, all the docs can be bantha bait for all I care. Such is game life. If you can't spend your SP wisely, you get ate by chubas.


I am seriously considering not selling anything to anyone.Creds I can get doing missions. Kill enough NPCs and no missions even.


The revamp is after this, and that, then this, then the other... can anyone seriously think it will be this year? I reckon about 2006, maybe June.


Rant, nope. Vent, nope. Honest opinons, yes. Ready for the banning too. Even tho I did not use the "special word" anywhere in here.


JB


btw- Dariane and I know the special word, ask in PMs


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