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GCostanza

Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:52 am

I just went up the ranger tree on Valcyn. Took me about 3 weeks. I liked the idea of being a master hunter. But I will drop the profession once I attain master, and here's why:

1. There is not enough harvesting bonus over a master scout. Avian meat is in short supply, and people are paying gobs of money for it. But it is like grinding teeth to have to collect this meat in such small quantities.

2. You can build a high class camp, but why? You have to go back into town to get missions anyway. And if you are building a camp to heal yourself, it is going to take you a VERY long time to collect any real recources.

3. Tracking is cool, but a neusance. I hate having to scroll through lists of the same creature, when I know what I am looking for. It's irritating. I imagine it was better served before vehicles. Now youcan just set your compass to 512m, and ride around on your bike looking for creatures.

I am going to keep the a couple of lines of scout for the harvesting and terrain bonuses. But I just don't see the justification of all those skill points for such a small bonus in harvesting. Let's face it, traps are a joke. Andsince EVERYONE hunts buffed now, what good are camps?

I wanted to like this profession. I really did. If they made it so you could REALLY hunt, and collect recources this would be a better game. But since there aren't enought whiny Rangers, OUR profession will never be a specific, useful one.

TBone Costanza - Master Chef - Master BE
Vendor at Minerva's Meat Locker
-2000 -3000 outside of Bestine, Tatooine

GCostanza

Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:53 am

#2

And btw, I'm only 15k of scout XP away from being done. I will probably do that over my lunch hour with a couple of Rancor lairs.

TBone Costanza - Master Chef - Master BE
Vendor at Minerva's Meat Locker
-2000 -3000 outside of Bestine, Tatooine

Iseult

Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:32 am

#3

Well - you do have some valid points. Not ones that haven't been made here about 12 dozen times already (*yawn*), but valid nevertheless. Camps are not very useful (well, they heal fast, look cool, and you don't have to wait 15 minutes to call a vehicle (but you don't need ranger camps for this)),areatrack is clunky and sometimes misses things, and, yes, traps are a joke....

Well,I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say it will take a long time to collect 'any real resources' -- the HTFB takes what, 50 units of hide, 35 units of bone, and maybe 30 units of metal. Maybe it would take me a long time to get this if I were hunting rasps, but twodecent-sized creatures on even the starter planets drop enough for one htfb and you can get metal at 3 cpu from the bazaar....

But as for not being able to find creatures as quickly as you would like to... well, with every profession there are the skills that you learn with the skill boxes and there are the skills that you learn as you use the profession. One of the skills that most of us master rangers have (and here I'm talking about the old-time master rangers, not the two-to-three week wonders), is that we have learned what areas of what planets are best for what creatures. So, when uber cor. avian or rori avian spawns, we usually do really well because we know where gulginaws or midnight vir vurs like to hang out .Again, this isn't knowledge that is conferred by the skill tree as such, it is knowledge that is gained as you play the profession, and it is this knowledge that makes us master rangers, not our completion of the skill tree.

As for harvesting bonuses, you might say a master scout gets 25 units from some creature, but I only get 35, so what's the big deal. You're right, if you just consider one creature, it's not that big of a difference, but when you are talking about hundreds of creatures (which is what we end up killing when we hunt for stuff), then our bonuses become a bit more apparent -- 2500 for 100 at master scout vs. 3500 for 100 at master ranger seems ok to me (I'm making these numbers up btw, so I'm making them a little lower than what I think they would actually be in game). These differences are even more noticeable when you are hunting bigger creatures. I went hunting for dant. herb. meat with a big group a week ago, and at the end of the hunt, I had about 11k of herb meat, while others in the group had at most 7k. Now, 4k is a sizable difference to me.

Yes, I think our harvesting skill should yield us even more (since none in the group were at master scout, why didn't I have 14k for their 7k -- shouldn't this reflect my 100 harvesting points as opposed to their fifty at most?)

Also, unless I'm mistaken, you get a +10 bonus to creature harvesting at master ranger, and it does seem to make a difference. So, if you haven't hit master yet (you say 'once I obtain master' above, so I'm assuming you haven't hit master yet), try harvesting at master, and see what you think about the harvesting differences. If you don't think they are such a big deal, then why not drop master, the camping, and the trapping lines and just keep the tracking line -- that's where all the harvesting bonuses are and areatrack still works decently at tracking iv.

OK - just my thoughts.

Iseult
Master Ranger / Mediocre Pistoleer
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GCostanza

Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:19 pm

#4

Yes. I notice a big difference in harvesting when I am harvesting large animals. And I realize it's a percentage difference. But there is no difference between what I can harvest and what someone else with 2 scout skill boxes can do while using BE vegehash. I think that is bad. Very bad.

But lets face it. People (doctors) on most servers are paying BIG money for Avian meat. Upwards of 100 cpu! You would think as a master Ranger you should be able to clean up, with as many skill points are required for the profession.

This is no knock on the profession, believe me. But just like most everything else, they really nerfed the Ranger when they changed other people's professions. The chefs cry, now they make a food that replaces the ranger. People dont want to wait to pull their vehicles out, so who needs a camp?

I have a LOT of respect for those of you who love this profession and choose to play it. You have much more patience than I.

TBone Costanza - Master Chef - Master BE
Vendor at Minerva's Meat Locker
-2000 -3000 outside of Bestine, Tatooine

EbeLightcloud

Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:01 pm

#5

GCostanza wrote:

Yes. I notice a big difference in harvesting when I am harvesting large animals. And I realize it's a percentage difference. But there is no difference between what I can harvest and what someone else with 2 scout skill boxes can do while using BE vegehash. I think that is bad. Very bad.

But lets face it. People (doctors) on most servers are paying BIG money for Avian meat. Upwards of 100 cpu! You would think as a master Ranger you should be able to clean up, with as many skill points are required for the profession.

This is no knock on the profession, believe me. But just like most everything else, they really nerfed the Ranger when they changed other people's professions. The chefs cry, now they make a food that replaces the ranger. People dont want to wait to pull their vehicles out, so who needs a camp?

I have a LOT of respect for those of you who love this profession and choose to play it. You have much more patience than I.

The last part of this post is the only reason i even bothered to reply. The Initial post really made me ask why did he even bother to say anything, if he is just grinding and planned to drop the profession anyways.

Ebe

Master Ranger...er...Spy
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