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Thread: 8 red dots within 64m and no agro?

dashida
Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:58 am
#1

I was taking down a fambaa and noticed that 8 hermit spiders had popped within my 64m range. I thought I'd be in trouble but they all just stood there for a couple minutes while i was taking down the fambaa. I realized that my maskscent was still on and wondered if that was the reason. I continued to take out all the hermit spiders one by one and only got attacked by one of them. Now, is that the result of maskscent/camo or is it some weird server thing where they dont realize you're there if they spawn next to you. The terrain was flat so the spiders were in LOS.





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TheDarkNerf
Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:26 am
#2

yes, mask scent give you the ability to avoid a red mobs agro check....although the actual skill is still being hammered out in development.



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bromano72
Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:28 am
#3

From what I read, the maskscent check happens at 2 specific distances rather than constantly, I don't remember exactly, but I Thought it was 65 and 35m. if you didn't cross that invisible line around them, it wouldn't check for you.


I'm not 100% on this, but it was in a scouting/ch guide I read somewhere.



-Vantor


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NRaas
Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:01 am
#4

To avoid just such situations, aggressive beasts have a timed delay after spawning before they will actively engage someone. You are safe until that timer runs out to get out of aggro range.


As well, many beasts will not attack until you are within 25m of them. Though most times they will wander in your direction until you are within that distance and THEN attack you.





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11th
Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:47 am
#5

i think it has nothing to do with your camo skill....lower lvl mobs dont usually attack me now even without camo up. so if you are talking about hermit spiders or something like that...well...even shaupauts, they dont usually attack you when youare high enough incombat lvl.

Fred_Skinner
Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:53 am
#6






bromano72 wrote:

From what I read, the maskscent check happens at 2 specific distances rather than constantly, I don't remember exactly, but I Thought it was 65 and 35m. if you didn't cross that invisible line around them, it wouldn't check for you.


I'm not 100% on this, but it was in a scouting/ch guide I read somewhere.



-Vantor


Naritus' only wookie ranger.





There is also a check on attack. If successful it gives you an additional free hit. The check also goes to the next possible aggro mob (I think). It only attacks if /maskScent fails. The rest seem to simply not be checked and don't attack.



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warlockiii
Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:31 am
#7

I'm a creature tamer, and I've tamed a lot of critters. Just because a dot is red doesn't mean you will get attacked by the creature--at least as far as animals are concerned--it means you CAN get attacked. I typically walk right up to Greater Desert Womp Rats without even thinking about it. It'll just stare right back at you most of the time (probably 80-90% of the time).


Based on experience, I would assumethere isprobably some calculation based on distance and the ferocity level of the creature. With animals, anything above 40m is very safe. Under 30m, and you are likely to get attacked if it's a creature with high ferocity. If it's low ferocity red, you can walk right up and sit down, and nothing will likely happen.


With NPCs, stay over 64 if you can. When you have a too many red dots to avoid, I'd tend to steer in the direction of the creatures over NPCs when possible.

Lelu_Eclipse
Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:10 am
#8

Don't be fooled by the hermit spider. They show up red on your radar but they're not really aggressive.In fact, they may be broken.


Le'lu


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NRaas
Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:16 am
#9

Lelu_Eclipse


As your characters owndifficulty rating increases, you'll find that the easier critters tend to either RUN away as you approach, or simplyignore you.


I find this a very cool AI feature. I love running into herds of Hermit Spiders and watch themskitter away in fear.





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Fred_Skinner
Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:27 am
#10

NPC reds to this to me as well. Ran right by a red dot on my 'dar that con'ed blue last night.



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Ozo
Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:24 am
#11

Fred, I think the NPC attack chances also have to do with the faction you have with/against them.


I am -5000 faction with swoops and they attack me as soon as they show up on my radar. I have +5000 desert demon faction (i think thats what it is) and they dont do a thing to me. I can walk right past them and they dont care.


I kill a lot of swoops on Corellia since it is my home and eveytime you kill one you get -swoop faction and +desert something faction up to +/- 5000.


I am not on Tatooine a whole lot so I could have just been lucky with the desert faction reds.




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