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Thread: How do you get the maximum number of creatures from a lair?
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DesktopSaki
Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:07 pm
#2
Kill what's there.
Hit lair ONCE for first tap. (You can do more, but once is all it needs, and you don't risk over tapping.)
Spawns will start; kill them as they come. When no more come, kill lair to about 50-60%. Wait for spawns; kill until no more come.
Continue to kill lair until dead. (A "boss" will sometimes spawn, and some lairs, like grackle bats, will routinely spawn a nice little cluster of mobs right before the lair goes boom.)
Don't forget to search it for eggs before you kill it. 
Gizzygmc
Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:46 pm
#3
I pretty much use the same technique. Although I often find that I get a spawn at 75% before finishing off the nest and getting that final tap ....
*Camo or Mask
*Search Lair
*Kill current creatures
*Soft tap (single shot then peace immediately so what pops doesn't immediately agro - most important if they are milking creatures) - kill what spawns
*Bring nest down to 50% - kill what spawns
*Bring nest down to 75% - kill what spawns
*Finish off Lair and often get a few final creatures (Hanadaks-Endor, Jungle Fynocks - Talus/Corellia, Borgles - Yavin, among others do this most)
Khaelyn
Master Ranger - Tarquinas
"Good Journies"
Phenix1050
Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:17 pm
#4
pretty much what they said.
Also, if you're taking missions, take ones with higher payoffs. I sometimes see that if I equip a particular weapon, I'll get a lair of the same type on the mission terminal, but for higher payoff. This means that there will be more creatures per wave.
ZioGiovanni
Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:13 pm
#5
Here's a guide to hunting lairs:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=ranger&message.id=36058&highlight=lair+guide#M36058
Shugyosha
Eklectrick
Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:10 pm
#6
The important part is hitting peace immediately after the first tap so that they don't aggro you (unless you want them to which sometimes I do). That's the hardest thing I find that people don't seem to grasp when they don't know what they are doing. They shoot two or three times until something pops out, then it aggros them and before they know it I'm fighting like mad to get the beasts off of them before they are eaten alive. I've noticed also that if you aggro the first one that spawns by hitting the lair, the other ones to follow will aggro you as well, even if you are out of range for the first one to call for help.
ChefVomit
Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:07 pm
#7
Ehh....sorry...I am new to these boards. But why wouldnt you want to agro them if they are "milking creatures" as you say? I kill everything, and then milk the corpses. I get a ton of milk that way, and there is not need to mes around with that ridiculous milking ritual with mask scent.
Sooo.....
Basically I ride up, kill everything there, get the milk, tap the lair until mor show up, kill those, milk the corpses.
Rinse, repeat.
Do you get more milk from them when they are alive or something? I havent found that to be the case myself. I get about 80-90 units of milk per Dant Picket with Hunting IV (I am working towards Ranger). So on a mission lair I get about 600-700 units per milk and it only takes a couple minutes per lair. Before when I milked them BEFORE killing them, it would take ages to do it.
Am I wrong about something? Please let me know. I am working towards Ranger and am not an expert, but I do know that milking them while they are alive take WAY too long for my tastes.
Sooo.....
Basically I ride up, kill everything there, get the milk, tap the lair until mor show up, kill those, milk the corpses.
Rinse, repeat.
Do you get more milk from them when they are alive or something? I havent found that to be the case myself. I get about 80-90 units of milk per Dant Picket with Hunting IV (I am working towards Ranger). So on a mission lair I get about 600-700 units per milk and it only takes a couple minutes per lair. Before when I milked them BEFORE killing them, it would take ages to do it.
Am I wrong about something? Please let me know. I am working towards Ranger and am not an expert, but I do know that milking them while they are alive take WAY too long for my tastes.
Eklectrick
Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:59 pm
#8
uhhh, correct me if I'm wrong fellow rangers as I haven't milked anything since the day the milking feature came out, but I don't think your supposed to be able to milk anything once it is dead. If you are in fact getting the milk resource from a corpse I think it's a bug. Now, if you are saying milking the corpse but meaning skinning it (ie getting meat/bone/hide) then that's the confusion.
Fodder650
Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:48 pm
#9
Shh... (uses new jedi mind trick) there is no bug. Its a feature yeah thats it a feature
DesktopSaki
Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:04 pm
#10
I dunno. If I were to tip over a cow and she had a heart attack and died of fright, the milk in her udders wouldn't vanish. I'd think I'd still be able to get milk from her.
I never tried milking a corpse, though.
Phenix1050
Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:07 pm
#11
another feature of milking that I always add to the discussion is the magical ability to milk while incapped.
You're fighting a large female creature and she charges you, and throws you to the ground. With your last bit of strenth you reach for....a bucket and milk that lady dry before you pass out?????
ChefVomit
Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:25 am
#12
I can assure you that you CAN milk a dead animal (as long as it can be milked while its ALIVE of course.......). And instead of having to mess around with all that waiting and standing right by the creature and trying not to spook it, you just kill it and get the milk instantly. There is no wait. It is exactly like getting meat off an animal.
I really dont think this is a bug. I think there are two ways to milk. If you are a chef/BE with no skill points to acquire any really dangerous combat professions, you can still easily pick up the exploration tree of scout for mask scent (you get the hunting tree with BE) and go out and get the milk that you depserately need as a Chef. You just have to use the slow, gimped way of acquiring milk.
BUT.....if you DO have combat skills, you have the option of just killing the creatures and grabbing the milk after the fact. This is realistic, as was already pointed out by another poster, since any milk in the belly of a recently killed creature doesnt GO anywhere. If you can take the meat and hides and bones, you sure as heck can get the milk. If I have truly mentioned something here that was not intended by the devs....well...I will shut up right now since this is the greatest way in the world to get milk. Simple, easy, quick.
I really dont think this is a bug. I think there are two ways to milk. If you are a chef/BE with no skill points to acquire any really dangerous combat professions, you can still easily pick up the exploration tree of scout for mask scent (you get the hunting tree with BE) and go out and get the milk that you depserately need as a Chef. You just have to use the slow, gimped way of acquiring milk.
BUT.....if you DO have combat skills, you have the option of just killing the creatures and grabbing the milk after the fact. This is realistic, as was already pointed out by another poster, since any milk in the belly of a recently killed creature doesnt GO anywhere. If you can take the meat and hides and bones, you sure as heck can get the milk. If I have truly mentioned something here that was not intended by the devs....well...I will shut up right now since this is the greatest way in the world to get milk. Simple, easy, quick.
Phenix1050
Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:47 am
#13
actually, you can milk TWICE...once while alive and then you just /harvest milk from the corpse. You can do BOTH!!!
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