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Thread: Anyone have thoughts on Ranger and GCW

Amsaran
Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:52 am
#1

Hello Ranger Family --

As we all know, the fire that burns under the GCW is beginning to heat up. I wanted to see if I could get some thoughts on how you folks see us becoming valuable in the GCW. I can see how as Master Rangers our HTFBs could be used a myriad of ways but how else could we be used and seen as great assets in the GCW?

Do we become more Tactical in use or....?

Your thoughts, my friends. Owen?



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Phenix1050
Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:06 am
#2

My thoughts have been layed out in the Outdoorsman 2.1 document. I'd go link it for you...but you're a Ranger, you should be able to track it down. (it's in the genius' thread)



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FourthNail
Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:56 am
#3



Amsaran wrote:
Hello Ranger Family --

As we all know, the fire that burns under the GCW is beginning to heat up. I wanted to see if I could get some thoughts on how you folks see us becoming valuable in the GCW. I can see how as Master Rangers our HTFBs could be used a myriad of ways but how else could we be used and seen as great assets in the GCW?

Do we become more Tactical in use or....?

Your thoughts, my friends. Owen?




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Jaxus
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:06 am
#4

I don't really think I'll ever get involved in the GCW. I'm a ranger, not an army ranger, but a woodsman. PvP holds no temptations to me,I love to explore, to hunt and to hang with my friends. Sending other players to the cloner will never hold any satifaction to me until I am allowed tosellthier skin to a tailor .



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Amsaran
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:35 am
#5



Jaxus wrote:
I don't really think I'll ever get involved in the GCW. I'm a ranger, not an army ranger, but a woodsman. PvP holds no temptations to me, I love to explore, to hunt and to hang with my friends. Sending other players to the cloner will never hold any satifaction to me until I am allowed to sell thier skin to a tailor .



Hehe. I understand. My thing is that I love to hunt too but am a Gunslinger at heart. Gues that makes me a Tactical Ranger. :0



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Alt Toon: Sabien Orenasai--Master AS/WS Trader Shadow Gate, Rori--Gorath Server
Ehope
Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:56 am
#6

Not a new idea by any means but after reading the changes with the GCW, I see a need for an escort service. Not all crafters will be Netural. Many are very attached to their faction.


It would be fun to "sneak" others past opposing faction. Thinking NPC's and non combatants here. (Is that the right term for covert?) Ehh..wishes in a fountain.

Almagill
Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:02 pm
#7

Personally, I'll be dropping out of all factional combat as I will get tired, very quickly, of dying while trying to go about my normal daily business. Why am I factioned? Cos my pilot needed to join with the ground forces.

So, it's neutral I'll be.

I am not sure I'll be so keen on going through towns where it's just a hail of gunfire and, with minefields, faction bases, CTF games and full on warfare going on out in the wild, tbh, am waiting to see how this publish is implemented before deciding whether I stay ingame at all.



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BaneShee
Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:41 pm
#8






Ehope wrote:

Not a new idea by any means but after reading the changes with the GCW, I see a need for an escort service. Not all crafters will be Netural. Many are very attached to their faction.


It would be fun to "sneak" others past opposing faction. Thinking NPC's and non combatants here. (Is that the right term for covert?) Ehh..wishes in a fountain.






Good Idea but the smugglers see this as their territory as well
Phenix1050
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:59 pm
#9






BaneShee wrote:






Ehope wrote:

Not a new idea by any means but after reading the changes with the GCW, I see a need for an escort service. Not all crafters will be Netural. Many are very attached to their faction.


It would be fun to "sneak" others past opposing faction. Thinking NPC's and non combatants here. (Is that the right term for covert?) Ehh..wishes in a fountain.






Good Idea but the smugglers see this as their territory as well





there's room for both people to have this skill.


Smugglers go into town, get a new option from recruiter. They "pay off" the local cops and the person gets a certain amount of time where they aren't attackable inside that city. In the wilderness, Rangers can conceal the person so the opposite faction never sees them. Hard to find a covert person if you can't see them.



PHE'NIX ANTARUS
BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
Hodokie
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:29 am
#10

Arn't the Rangers seen to be helpers to the Jedi in thier quests and such? Would that not be thier part in the GCW as well as having an elite combat profession and shooting up Rebs or Storm Troopers? Thought I read how a Ranger could use the Rescue Skill on a Jedi and in turn enter into combat mode with the person he was being attacked by (have not tried it yet, don't know a Jedi willing to test it). Maybe I misread somthing.



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Phenix1050
Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:11 am
#11






Hodokie wrote:

Arn't the Rangers seen to be helpers to the Jedi in thier quests and such? Ummm. No. That's a very specific groupof Rangers that's in the EU. Ranger is a profession, not a specifc group. Are all pistoleers supposed to be rebel because Han Solo was? Sorry man, this argument is totally out of touch with what an MMo should be. Would that not be thier part in the GCW as well as having an elite combat profession and shooting up Rebs or Storm Troopers?

Think about this for one second. If they're shooting people...then they aren't using their Ranger skills. What it means for each profession to have a role in the GCW is that if someone is ONLY that profession, they need to have a role. That means a person who is Ranger, and ONLY ranger, needs to have a role in the GCW. Again, you can't force stipulations on people. Meaning you can't say "to participate in the GCW as a Rifleman you must also have Doctor. See the problem?Thought I read how a Ranger could use the Rescue Skill on a Jedi and in turn enter into combat mode with the person he was being attacked by (have not tried it yet, don't know a Jedi willing to test it). Maybe I misread somthing. Two things: first, rescue is buggy and is generally referered to as the suicide button. and if a Jedi can't kill somebody, how do you as a Ranger expect to be able to?Second: OUR ROLE ISN'T SAVING JEDI. You're basing your thoughts on Ranger on a small segment of the Range population, who in turn in basing it off of a small group in the EU. Rangers are not the Jedi helpers. That is not our role. Some people CHOOSE to play that way, but that's a choice, nota professional role.









PHE'NIX ANTARUS
BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
DureenaBadKarma
Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:34 am
#12






Jaxus wrote:

I don't really think I'll ever get involved in the GCW. I'm a ranger, not an army ranger, but a woodsman. PvP holds no temptations to me,I love to explore, to hunt and to hang with my friends. Sending other players to the cloner will never hold any satifaction to me until I am allowed tosellthier skin to a tailor .







Have to agree with this one. I've never been into PvP in any game but love co-op play. Fighting another person, even in an airtight combat system, still means too much whining and complaining when/if you beat them imo.


And PvE faction enabled in the new system means I will spend half my hunting time fending off rebel attacks rather than harvesting the critters I am after.


I think if this had happened 8 months ago when I started then I would have been more up for it, but due to game constraints and general frustration at the GCW I discovered Ranger, a PvE specific profession really, coupled that with rifles where the best attacks are done at range and from cover which is useless in PvP, and now I'm hooked on hanging out in the wilds, learning to survive on my own or with 1-2 others, and letting the war happen without me.


I guess we'll see what happens.. I will at least re-join the Imps for a shiny set of Biker Scout armour and fight 1-2 PvP, PvE battles to see if I like it.




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Hodokie
Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:45 am
#13






Phenix1050 wrote:





Hodokie wrote:

Arn't the Rangers seen to be helpers to the Jedi in thier quests and such? Ummm. No. That's a very specific groupof Rangers that's in the EU. Ranger is a profession, not a specifc group. Are all pistoleers supposed to be rebel because Han Solo was? Sorry man, this argument is totally out of touch with what an MMo should be. Would that not be thier part in the GCW as well as having an elite combat profession and shooting up Rebs or Storm Troopers?

Think about this for one second. If they're shooting people...then they aren't using their Ranger skills. What it means for each profession to have a role in the GCW is that if someone is ONLY that profession, they need to have a role. That means a person who is Ranger, and ONLY ranger, needs to have a role in the GCW. Again, you can't force stipulations on people. Meaning you can't say "to participate in the GCW as a Rifleman you must also have Doctor. See the problem?Thought I read how a Ranger could use the Rescue Skill on a Jedi and in turn enter into combat mode with the person he was being attacked by (have not tried it yet, don't know a Jedi willing to test it). Maybe I misread somthing. Two things: first, rescue is buggy and is generally referered to as the suicide button. and if a Jedi can't kill somebody, how do you as a Ranger expect to be able to?Second: OUR ROLE ISN'T SAVING JEDI. You're basing your thoughts on Ranger on a small segment of the Range population, who in turn in basing it off of a small group in the EU. Rangers are not the Jedi helpers. That is not our role. Some people CHOOSE to play that way, but that's a choice, nota professional role.










I was just pointing out what I have read. Was not trying to make an argument or force a point of view per say. Just trying to participate and learn more about the Ranger Profession.




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