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Thread: Current TC-EP3 Ranger Bugs Camouflage/Conceal Please add bugs (including Mask Scent bugs you find)
Problems with Ranger Comouflage (/conceal)
Character - Ullio
Server: TC-EP3
- Red Dot (aggro'd) mobs 'see' right through the camo, but the camo does not break.
- I receive no scout xp from being around red dot mobs (npc or creature) - possibly due to the fact they 'see' straight through it?
- Cannot apply camo on endor.
- Someone applied camo to me on Tatooine, now I cannot remove the camo by using the /conceal command (usually typing /conceal after already being concealed would remove it). Also, shuttling, and inter-planet travel is not removing my concealed status. And as the conceal is not being removed by red dot mobs that see me, i am stuck with a perpetual conceal status. A conceal status that doesn't sem to work! lol
- /Conceal does not seem to have a timer - one camo application lasted way over 2 hours. while I think this is excellent. Maybe some sort of timer should be used (perhaps 1 hour in duration?).
Suggestions:
- Having the icon in the buff tray is good news. However, what would be far more exciting to Rangers, as well as giving them more functionality in PvE and PvP, would be for Camo to give similar 'invisible' effects and status similar to the Rifleman abilty, and the Force Cloak (but somewhat to a lesser degree).
- Eg, the rifle ability can be broken if cover is broken - not infallible
Ranger camo invisibility should be effective for ranger who have camo'd themselves, and will last until a creature or npc 'see's him. In the case of PvP it will last unless the ranger comes within a certain distance of an opposite faction Special Forces player. - not infallible, and linked directly to the rangers camo ability.
This also gives the ranger a PvP role.. he can scout out enemy formation and locations, and base defences. Also, by applying camo to group members, they also can go invisible (although as thier camo skills are much lower, they will have more chance of being seen - and maybe their distance for PvP could be larger?). This allows for a sudden sneak raid for PvP encounters.
Jedi Forcecloak should be totally infallible - nothing should be able to see the jedi, or target him/her. It should only be limitd by the jedi's force bar. - This is but one aspect that would start to redeem the ranger profession in terms of benefits/skill point cost. And I think it's an addition most Rangers would welcome, whether they see ranger as a creature-orientated profession, or as more of a fighting/recon profession.
I hope this helps,
BR
LOL Dregar Here Ullio
I tested alot more after you had to go offline. Only the following plantes allowed me to camoflage myself, and on those planets I was able to walk up to an agro mob without detection or them attacking me.
Corellia, Dantooine, Dathomir, and Tatooine
All other Planets would not allow me to camoulfage myself.
Here are some in-depth results from testing out camo/conceal on the galaxy's planets.
Tatooine
Can I apply camo? - yes (tries to trigger auto attack after if u have it selected)
Can I remove with /conceal? Yes, ONLY when i have nothing targeted, if self targeted, no, get the "target already concealed" system message
Does Combat break camo? - No
Did Red Dot Creature see through camo? -Yes, (Dune Lizard, when on speeder) striaght away, conceal icon on buff bar not removed, however, was able to reapply camo, suggesting camo effect had been broken. No XP received. No System Message That I had been Detected.
- No (Squill lvl 60, when on Foot) 120 Scout xp received.
- No (Bocatt lvl 60, When on Bike) 120 Scout XP per animal.
Did Red Dot NPC see through camo? - Yes (tusken Chief, Tusken Fort, when on foot) Buff Bar Icon Not removed, Conceal Status not removed (could not reapply after fight) No System Message That I had been Detected.
Lok
Can I apply camo? - No, Although Conceal Buff Icon still present. It should have cleared due to interplanetary travel.
Rori
Can I apply camo? - No, Although Conceal Buff Icon still present. It should have cleared due to interplanetary travel.
Naboo
Can I apply camo? - No, Although Conceal Buff Icon still present. It should have cleared due to interplanetary travel.
Endor
Can I apply camo? - No, Although Conceal Buff Icon still present. It should have cleared due to interplanetary travel.
Correllia
Can I apply camo? - yes (tries to trigger auto attack after if u have it selected)
Can I remove with /conceal? Yes, ONLY when i have nothing targeted, if self targeted, no, get the "target already concealed" system message.
LOL! Stooped by imperials AND Probot for scans.. so obviously doesnt hide you from them!
Did Red Dot Creature see through camo? - No (Diseased Vrelt, lvl 5 when on bike) - 10 Scout xp gained
Did Red Dot NPC see through camo? - No (Rogue Corsec, lvl 18, when on foot) - 36 Scout xp gained for each npc
- Yes, eventually (Rogue Corsec, lvl 18, when on foot) - Buff Icon Removed and system message received.
Dantooine
Can I apply camo? - yes (tries to trigger auto attack after if u have it selected)
Can I remove with /conceal? Yes, ONLY when i have nothing targeted, if self targeted, no, get the "target already concealed" system message
Did Red Dot Creature see through camo? - No (Grassland voritor Tracker, lvl 78, when on bike) 156 Scout Xp gained.
- No (Huurrton Huntress, lvl 80, when on bike) 160 Scout xp gained
- No(huurton howler, lvl 38, when on bike) 76 Scout Xp per animal
- Yes (huurton howler, lvl 38, when on bike) Buff Icon removed, and system message given.
Did Red Dot NPC see through camo? - Yes Stormtrooper (while actually a white dot as I was on leave) Lvl 25 - camo icon removed, system message given.
- No (Various Mokks, lvl 80, when on bike) 160 scout xp gained per npc
Dathomir
Can I apply camo? - yes (tries to trigger auto attack after if u have it selected)
Can I remove with /conceal? Yes, ONLY when i have nothing targeted, if self targeted, no, get the "target already concealed" system message
Did Red Dot Creature see through camo? - No (Shear Mite Qeen, lvl 38, when on bike) 76 Scout xp given.
-No (Kamurith Snapper, lvl 44, when on bike) 88 Scout Xp given
Did Red Dot NPC see through camo? - No (Nightsister Stalker, lvl 89, when on bike) 178 Scout Xp given.
Yavin 4
Can I apply camo? - No, Although Conceal Buff Icon still present. It should have cleared due to interplanetary travel.
Hope the information helps,
BR
Message Edited by KapowBzapp on 05-01-2005 09:01 PM
We have Shadow helping us now guys and hes interested in getting us fixed.
Big thanks for the data and testing you've done already, its a big big help.