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Thread: Camo is useful again!
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AragornSoS
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:23 pm
#1
Dunno if it was just me having exceptionally bad luck tonight, but with the spawn rates and wild spawns in particular apparently ratched WAAAAY up, I was getting aggro from various NPCs on Lok tonight about every 20m or so it seemed! Canyon Corsairs, Nyms, mercenaries, pirates, etc. Between that and the massive increase I saw just tonight with wild critters all over, I'm thinking that the Ranger ability to camo themselves AND OTHERS to protect somewhat from both creatures AND NPCs is about to take a fairly significant step towards being FAR more useful and sought after. My guildies already love me for being able to do it for the folks that don't have any scout when they go to high end planets (Dath, Endor, Yavin). I'm wondering how long it'll be before we all start seeing tells asking for us to camo (or probably more likley demanding that we camo)?
Either way, this Ranger is exceptionally happy about camo, maskscent, and the decent shift of herbivore meat on Ahazi these days - nothing quite as fun as heading out to slaughter the gurks and snorbals littering the countryside, and man, after the spawn improvements -- they ARE "littering" the countryside!!!
ZomKalla
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:28 pm
#2
Camo isn't useful against NPC's, unless they have changed it, and I'm so far out of the loop.
Fodder650
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:19 pm
#3
Camo was fixed against NPC's a couple patches ago. Go try itagain Zom its a big differnce now
ForceFielding
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:46 pm
#4
WhatI noticed about camo vs NPC's (anjd nothing has changed in 6 months from what I've seen)is that if they are faction (when you kill them you get the faction status message)then it doesnt work.
But if they arent faction (example Black Sun on Yavin) then it does work.
Another thingI noticed (bug) is that if you are camoed and then you take a shuttle/starport trip, when you get off you aren't camoed right, but the computer still thinks you are with regards to your mask scent status. If you you mask scent and then try to unmask scent, it will say you can't do that while camoed.
As far as camo being usefull "again" I have always had a use for camo, and try to get a brick of each camo resource for every planet so i never have to worry about it. It lasts alot longer than mask scent (less hassle while hunting) and sometimes works against NPC's.
JuCat
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:12 pm
#5
ForceFielding wrote:
mask scent (less hassle while hunting)
Dude...
/maskscent;
/pause 16;
/maskscent;
/macro <name of your macro>;
there no hassle with maskscent...just turn it on and it will reapply itself every sixteen seconds..
agent156
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:36 pm
#6
Camo was working really well with Reb NPCs last night while I was TEFed soo.. don't know about that faction thing.
FourthNail
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:37 pm
#7
That macro doesn't always work though. I wrote one exactly like it and found that it it turns off in the middle of combat, it won't turn back on. Then, when you finish combat, the timing on it may be off and you have to start it over.
It's easier to just pay attention to the time and hit the maskscent button two times really quick each time before you start shooting or kicking.
Plunk
It's easier to just pay attention to the time and hit the maskscent button two times really quick each time before you start shooting or kicking.
Plunk
ForceFielding
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:07 am
#8
JuCat wrote:
ForceFielding wrote:
mask scent (less hassle while hunting)
Dude...
/maskscent;
/pause 16;
/maskscent;
/macro ;
there no hassle with maskscent...just turn it on and it will reapply itself every sixteen seconds..
No hassle if you arent fighing anything or using a vehicle. otherwise....
And your macro ..When yourmaskscent breaks (due to a red) during those 16 seconds then your macro will permanently keep you unmaskscented.
Camo will stick alot longer (and supposedly a little better) then maskscent, and it works against some NPC's as well. (so it's far more usefull) Like todayI was prone killing a Black Sun Assasin 50m away while a Black Sun Guard was 5m away just picking his nose.
ShyGirl
Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:12 am
#9
ROFL !!!
JascoSmlee wrote:
I can even walk right up to stormtroopers while tef'd and /tickle them and they can't see me (maybe thats just their bulky helmets though...)
FourthNail
Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:36 am
#10
JascoSmlee wrote:I have had no problems with camo working against any NPCs, apart from any that give thug faction when killed. For some reason any type of thug (excluding Siths) sees right through my camo and attacks me as soon as I am in range, even though they dont actually 'break' my camo. I can even walk right up to stormtroopers while tef'd and /tickle them and they can't see me (maybe thats just their bulky helmets though...)
My guess is it's because stormies are dumb. You know that whole second generation clone thing, like on Multiplicity.
"Number four, we got a gift for you!"
"A CHAINSAW?!"
Plunk
Message Edited by FourthNail on 01-26-2005 09:36 AM
ShyGirl
Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:36 pm
#11
ZomKalla wrote:
Camo isn't useful against NPC's, unless they have changed it, and I'm so far out of the loop.
Camo has been good against NPC's since I became Master Ranger.... That was sometimes in May-June last year
JascoSmlee
Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:46 pm
#12
I have had no problems with camo working against any NPCs, apart from any that give thug faction when killed. For some reason any type of thug (excluding Siths) sees right through my camo and attacks me as soon as I am in range, even though they dont actually 'break' my camo. I can even walk right up to stormtroopers while tef'd and /tickle them and they can't see me (maybe thats just their bulky helmets though...)
Divvur
Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:52 pm
#13
Camo is much more useful than Maskscent and I always use it if I am doing anything dedicated on a planet.
However, I have been noticing a few oddities when it comes to my camo, some things eeing through and some things not. I have not yet been able to pin this down to anything specific. I can run past agro Tuskans and Alkharas fine (both factioned, the former I have -5000 the latter I have +5000). However, some other mobs including Jabbas (-5000 faction), Gunrunners (no faction) andDesert Demons (-5000 faction) will shoot at me without breaking the camo. As a Master Ranger/Master Rifleman being attacked by these low-end mobs is not that big a deal, but it is kind of irritating and I cannot pin it down to any one cause, if it was faction related then why can I hug Tuskan unless they actually break the camo and detect me?
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