Ranger Archive
Thread: Suggestion: Harvesting droid revamp
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DaveG
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:38 am
#1
Just a couple of thoughts here about how the use of harvesting droids could be extended in the future:
- As pointed out my friend in the milking thread: If we get the ability to harvest more than one resource, then harvesting droids will have to be adjusted accordingly so that they get more than one resource (I really dont' want to have to send the droid to the corpse, only to wait for it come back and change the resource only to have to send it back again!).
- Allow harvesting droids to harvest milk too. You set their harvest interest to "Milk", tell them to chase, then tell them to harvest.
- Shellfish harvesting, just set the harvest interest to shellfish andtell them to stay in the water and tell them to harvest (you'd probably have to repeatedly issue the harvest command as you have to use the harvesting tool).
I'd suggest fishing, however that is a much more interactive activity that we should be doing ourselves. I suggested the milking and shellfish harvesting because they are pretty 'passive' activities (in which I, at least, feel like a bot). Having a droid to do this for us would free us up to go and milk or get shellfish (thus doubling harvest) or hunt other creatures.
JascoSmlee
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:14 am
#2
Some good points Dave. I'm not sure if they could be progammed to milk with current pre-req's for using them though. AFAIK you don't even need scout to milk (if you are camo'd by a Ranger), but you do to use the droids. I think my biggest wish for harvest droids is an auto-harvest mode where it will just go from corpse to corpse without me having to tell/wait for it.
Hakai
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:29 am
#3
JascoSmlee wrote:
Some good points Dave. I'm not sure if they could be progammed to milk with current pre-req's for using them though. AFAIK you don't even need scout to milk (if you are camo'd by a Ranger), but you do to use the droids. I think my biggest wish for harvest droids is an auto-harvest mode where it will just go from corpse to corpse without me having to tell/wait for it.
and besides....an R2 that milks a creature is kind of a disturbing image...don't you think?
Alpha_Cluster
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:46 am
#4
I refuse to use a harvisting droid i mean what is the point!
DaveG
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:51 am
#5
Nah I think it'd be kind of funny. We have things like that already in real life anyway:
JascoSmlee
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:53 am
#6
It depends on your template and play style, but to me (Ranger/Rifleman) the point is it saves my legs, and it also increases my harvest. Mine also lets me fire traps without using up as combat turn. There are numerous posts in this forum where you can find both sides of the argument for/against the use of harvest droids.
Alpha_Cluster wrote:
I refuse to use a harvisting droid i mean what is the point!
DaveG
Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:56 am
#8
Alpha_Cluster wrote:
I refuse to use a harvisting droid i mean what is the point!
Here's the points
- In general, with a high enough bonus, a droid can harvest much more than you can, even with veghash.
- In general, it's really useful to ranged combatants because they don't have to leave their firing spot and cover the long distance to the corpses.
- In general, it's useful to melee and ranged fighters beacuse it can harvest while you are still in combat.
- In general, it's useful because it have harvest while you are prohibitive state effects (like blind) on yourself.
- In specific to milking, it could do all of the above, but even more so, it could be milking one creature while you're milking another, thus increasing what you can get. Which would be a welcome thing given that it's such a limited commodity.
DaveG
Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:03 am
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JascoSmlee wrote:
Some good points Dave. I'm not sure if they could be progammed to milk with current pre-req's for using them though. AFAIK you don't even need scout to milk (if you are camo'd by a Ranger), but you do to use the droids. I think my biggest wish for harvest droids is an auto-harvest mode where it will just go from corpse to corpse without me having to tell/wait for it.
I'd go along with that too. I was actually thinking about the shell fish thing, and it'd be nice if you could just leave the droid sat in a river harvesting, harvesting, harvesting. But then I guess that'd be too much like an actual lot-taking harvestor.
But yes, especially for riflemen, having the droid on-site semi-intelligently harvesting the latest corpse would be less distracting than try to coordinating.
The best work around I have for this is to tell the droid to stay (rather than following me), then it will sit on the last corpse it harvested from, which'll be closer to the next creature you're about to attack. Furthermore, you can even tell the droid to start chasing the next creature you're going to attack.
Mac_Leod
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:31 am
#11
I think it would be really nice to have the harvesting commands stack. For example, we just had a really nice shift of Naboo avian, so I've been out killing nunas and such. Now, I can send my droid out to harvest, and I can kill another nuna before he harvests from the first one. So, I send the command to harvest the second nuna. My droid immediately forgets about the first nuna and travels to the second.
It would be incredibly useful if I could just send the commands and have my droid travel to the corpses in sequence.
It would be incredibly useful if I could just send the commands and have my droid travel to the corpses in sequence.
Alpha_Cluster
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:13 am
#12
So how exactly does the current system work for harvesting i believe i have a droid with 110 harvest?
DaveG
Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:49 am
#13
We're not sure exactly how the harvest bonus works, but we know this:
- Harvest bonus equal to 50, droid harvests equal to you.
- Harvest bonus greater than 50, droid harvests greater than you.
- Harvest bonus less than 50, droid harvests less than you.
As for "stacking commands", what we mean is that if you kill creature A and send the droid to harvest, but you kill creature B while droid is still on way to corpse A and then issue another harvest command, droid will turn away from corpse A and go to corpse B, thus missing out corpse A.
Therefore you have to wait until corpse A has been harvested until you can issue command to harvest corpse B.
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