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I got to thinking of just how bad off BioEngineers must be right now. They have to have the crafting line of medic, and the exploration line of scout, along with thair BE mastery. That is just 14 points less then master ranger. And they get almost no CL for it, and not any offences/defences either.
And if they wand to sell thair products on a vendor and just have artisan 0030 they do not enough SP left to get a master combat profession and that CL will be very low.

So what if we could collect blood for them. A bit like we can milk creatures.
We would mask our scent, and sneak up on a creature, and would them tap it for blood. Each creature could only give one blood sample every so often (just like with milking), but there would be risk of failing and being attacked just as with DNA sampling.

The only stat of a blood sample would be what type of creature it was taken from (say "Rancor" or "Fambaa") and a number of uses (depending on creature CL and the rangers abilities). The BE's could then take DNA samples from it just as they can from crafted creatures they have in thair inventory.

BE's should of cause still keep thair own sampling abilities, this would just be an option for the BE's who prefer not to put them self in harms way to get DNA.

As for it being to close to steeling abilitys... well many of the trap effects was given to other professions, so why can we not get something back. (and BE was given a lot more items they can craft)

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Tarnak_Archvold wrote:

As for it being to close to steeling abilitys... well many of the trap effects was given to other professions, so why can we not get something back. (and BE was given a lot more items they can craft)

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Hehe, I think this is an understatement...

I think the BE's got more love then they ever wanted....

I think this idea has come up a few times. I've heard it as both a Ranger/trapping idea and a CH capture idea. My only question would be - do the BEs want it? They might enjoy the sampling part, and just want a way to do it more effectively on their own rather than depend on another prof to do it for them. But I think it is a great idea - its something I wanted to do when my husband was a BE. He sent me to all the danger planets to place harvies for him after all.

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AgonThalia wrote:

Interesting idea...

(devil's advocate)

drawing blood really seems to be in the medic's corner honestly, and this ability really doesnt enhance rangers, it just makes it even more "mobile harvesting"

Yeah..this is basically their (BE)DNA extraction skill with the risk shifting to the Ranger.

(good ranger)

However, after the kill, instead of harvesting we could "harvest blood" or something like that. I think there is a good idea here if we bat it around a bit.

This would be more appropriate, but don't the BE's want to be out in the wilds (I am asking...)? Nothing is more fun that running up to a piket, jabbing it in the butt with a syringe, and instantly killing it. Well, nothing except running up to a piket, jabbing it in the butt with a syringe, and pissing it off instead of killing it!

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Well the question is, with the CU, is BE really a combat profession at all. Do they even belong in the field or are they a crafting profession.
I am sure that there are BE's that wand to do thair own sampling, and BE's who would gladly se others take the risk and just stay at home crafting.

BE's can get thair own milk, eggs, and fish as well, and you will properly se most of them buying it if it is reasonable priced. It is reasonable to think that they would just as likely be willing to buy the blood, or rather a stack of risk free DNA sambaing attempts.

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Tarnak_Archvold wrote:
Well the question is, with the CU, is BE really a combat profession at all. Do they even belong in the field or are they a crafting profession.
I am sure that there are BE's that wand to do thair own sampling, and BE's who would gladly se others take the risk and just stay at home crafting.

BE's can get thair own milk, eggs, and fish as well, and you will properly se most of them buying it if it is reasonable priced. It is reasonable to think that they would just as likely be willing to buy the blood, or rather a stack of risk free DNA sambaing attempts.

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I am not against to harvesting the blood after death. Especially not if we could take it from ANY animal we kill or help kill. (say Ancient Krayt Dragon blood?)
It might actuarially be a good reason for a group to bring along a ranger, as I am sure that such high end blood would fetch a good price.

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Calculus_Entropy wrote:

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Tarnak_Archvold wrote:
Well the question is, with the CU, is BE really a combat profession at all. Do they even belong in the field or are they a crafting profession.
I am sure that there are BE's that wand to do thair own sampling, and BE's who would gladly se others take the risk and just stay at home crafting.

BE's can get thair own milk, eggs, and fish as well, and you will properly se most of them buying it if it is reasonable priced. It is reasonable to think that they would just as likely be willing to buy the blood, or rather a stack of risk free DNA sambaing attempts.

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BE is not a combat profession, nor is anyone implying they should be. Who says crafting professions don't belong in the field? All crafting professions have the potential to have to go to dangerous 'wild' areas to get resources.

All we are saying is, why not harvest the blood after death, instead of giving us a skill that is nearly identical to the BE's current skill? Harvesting resources (blood) after death is our forte, not sticking animals with needles.

I agree that there are/will be plenty of BE's that would gladly avoid the risk, but that does not mean that there aren't those who enjoy it. Here's a question...under the new BE rules from the CU, do they still have the DNA sampling line?

Good question .. and I think it is. Was trying this out as a test for one of my characters that is a Bio Engineer.

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Having a character that is Ranger and a character that is Bio I can see both sides of the coin and at present my Bio is not strong enough to visit the tougher planets. Think she has enough abilities to survive on Tat, Corellia and Naboo but thats about it. So perhaps the scout can extract blood after death but will be of a lesser quality than if extracted by a bio engineer ?