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Thread: [Devs respond please]Rangers and Mon Cal

DarthVereb
Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:48 pm
#1

One of the few issues that really irritate me, oneis when I am running along the countryside and hit a patch of water. As a ranger, why should that slow me down, or at least not break my burst. At the very least, can we get a bonus to swimming speed? The other reason I ask this is because we also have an aquatic Race that people can choose from. Why don't Mon Cal's get a bonus to swimming speed? Wouldn't this be an excellent addition to add depth to this game?



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NRaas
Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:53 pm
#2

"At the very least, can we get a bonus to swimming speed?"


- This has been suggested as an enhancement for Terrain Negotiation, by other Rangers.


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- I played a Mon Calamari during Beta, and I agree... They should have a swimming bonus.


- I would suggest using the following official channels to request such a change:



  1. /bugin game

  2. starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/submit_feedback.jsp?page=Submit%20Feedback




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Calculus_Entropy
Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:55 pm
#3

Does that mean you should get a negative bonus for walking around on Tat? How about us lizards getting a speed bonus for Tat and slowing down on the jungle planets? I like the idea of aspecies movement modifier, but it needs to be implemented across allspecies and all situations.



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Cephalo
Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:10 pm
#4

Lizards should get a bonus for the Jungle too. Actually, they would need a boost on Tat in the daytime, but a huge penalty at night. Actually, maybe all this would be a needless complication?

DarthVereb
Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:13 pm
#5

It's simple complication that would make people think a little bit more about what race they choose and where they choose to live.



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DukeHondo
Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:43 pm
#6

I'd cry if I got gimped at night time as a Trandoshan TKA/Ranger..



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Ypiana
Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:31 pm
#7

Since all species are sentient, they are able to master their environments. Also, just because Trandos have scales and resemble doesn't mean they are cold-blooded. Even if they were, they would be able to overcome their physiological limitations before they could have the slightest chances of acquiring the simplest technology, to say nothing of spaceflight. Warm-blooded species need only food, water,and adequate clothing to protect themselves from the cold. I'm sure Trandoshans could use thermal suits of some type to enable them to be active in environments colder than their homeworld. So instead of making your Trandoshan put on an electric blanket suit at night, he just stays active.


Also, Mon Calamari anatomical shapeis no moreconducive to movement through water than that of humans,and in particular human females. Human malesare broader at the shoulders and smaller at the waist,and whereas females are opposite (more like Mon-Calamari body shape) and therefore more hydrodynamic. Combined with comparable size of hands and feet and lack of webbing on Mon Cal fingers and toes, and evident lack of extra muscle most beneficial for an uprightbiped's swimming ability (latisumus dorsi, flexor, and pectoral), there is no inherent reason for a Mon Calamari to be faster in the water than an experienced human swimmer.


However, Mon Calamari have abilities such as eyes thatfocus underwater,extremely large lung capacity and increased ability to process atmospheric gasses stored in the lungs and body, slick, hairless skin that benefits from submersion, and a thermal metabolism that can preserve body heat in cold water, which simply saps a human's body heat. Mon-Calamari craniums allow for automatic adjustement of sinus pressure regulation,whereas aswimming human must consciously regulate the rapid intracranial pressure difference that occurs while diving byclosingtheir mouth and nose andforcing gas into their sinuses and otological cavities.Mon-Calamari also have the innate ability to store pressurized atmospheric gasses in their body, and their bodies regulate the release of these gasses in relation to the external pressure on their bodies. The inability to do this leads to humans suffering or dying from what is termed decompression sickness. This Mon-Cal ability evolved from the ancient Mon-Cals taking advantage of the ubiquitous air pockets found in deep-water caves on their homeworld. On a sidenote, Mon-Calamari are also better able to survive in space environments due to their ability to survive rapidchanges in atmospheric pressureaccidents that would be fatal to a human.


So, Mon-Cals are much better at swimming underwater and staying in water for extended periods than a human will ever be, but they are not inherently faster surface swimmers.


-- YP




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Rancorrider4
Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:46 am
#8

YP,


Uhmmm......wow.


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zanetheinsane
Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:17 am
#9

YP.... match, point, game. (WOW)
Babulugats
Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:00 am
#10

A looooooooooong time ago in development Mon Cals were supposed to be faster swimmers, and possess the ability to swim underwater. Underwater envs got pushed to the back burner forever ago, I'm not sure when general swimming speed got nixed. Yp you forget one anatomical feature the Mon Cals have, the oversized forearms with fins that act as paddles to get more force out of each stroke. It was there a long time ago, I'd love to see it come back (I actually thought the swimming bonus was still in when I first started). Underwater I'm sure is still a long way away, take a swim out into the ocean and look down. Hey I didnt know trees grew underwater , hehe.



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