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Bothan master ranger +115 camoflauge

I keep my radar at 128m.

Tonight I was running through a deserted area of Tatooine when I got the message "a creature has detected you". There were no creatures of any type on my radar. There were no arrows indicating creatures were off the edge of the radar. Maskscent definitely broke and did not expire because I had the timer active when I tried to reapply it. I stopped and did an /areatrack and the closest animals were over 400m away. No mobs spawned while I was doing the track. My radar was entirely empty of yellow or red dots during the entire time.

Were there any stuctures on the area? There has been a stated hotfix that will remove "lairs" (note: some are invisible lairs you cannot target and just spawn a set of mobs) if they coinside with a PC structure. I have seen this in action were I would see a group of swoopers pop in then back out again near a PA "town". Just a thought...

However, I will conferm that MS and Conceal are breaking for me MORE as master then as novice. I can't use it any more. I was hunting tonight and it broke so often (I thought just maybe they might have snuck in a fix) I never had it up more then3 minutes tops. Conditions were not anormal or congested, I was hunting mid and low level.

No structures on my radar. Nothing on my radar but desert.

I have noticed several times running past an aggro lair, getting the xp from all the mobs in it, and then when the lair is almost off the radar (no other lairs nearby) my maskscent breaking and a mob from the now out of weapon range lair making a beeline for me. This happens a few times a day and I was thinking it might be a lag issue even though I am on DSL with an average ping of 65 to the server. But now I am thinking it is related somehow to the above.

I have other issues with maskscent as well, most notably that very low level mobs such as kreetlesand sevortts break it often. But this is the first proof I've had that the skill is not working correctly.

Deoka,

First - are you talking about maskscent or conceal? Because your camo modifier has nothing to do with maskscent now.

Second, take this thread over to the Scout forums, and check out some of the stuff we've written on maskscent over there. As maskscent is primarily a Scout function now, I want to get the discussion off it off the Ranger boards.

B

Maskscent is a Scout skill. Has to be, as a Scout if worked great, as a Ranger it breaks every 30 seconds.

Prime example, hunting on Datooine. A smuggler, a CH and myself. The CH who has only scout skills was fine, his stuff never broke. Mine was breaking every minute or less.

A volitor lizard starts after us, as the smuggler was not masked, jumps on him, chews him up, spits him out. I had not moved, made an aggressive gesture, farted, nothing... "A creature..." I join my buddy in the cloner. The CH watched, his maskscent worked fine for him and his pet, and he lived.

Oh yeah, maskscent works well, it and rescue seem to spell suicide to me.

JB

JB,

Go read the scout forums.

There are mixed reviews.

I'm Master Ranger and its working fine for me. We're trying to figure out where the problem lies.

B

I have wayfaring 4 and I am Bothan, MS should be very hard to break for tough mobs, and nearly impossible to break for low level mobs. MS is so unreliable that I stopped using it now that I don't need the XP anymore.

My biggest beef with MS is this: It seems to be a much bigger chance of the creature attacking you after it breaks MS. I have buddies that are not Masked and can stand at 35 meter not getting aggroed. When MS breaks(did I mention it does all to often?) I get a qiucktrip to the Cloning facility, all the while mu buddies are laughing their ass of in groupchat, beacause I have "wasted" so many skillpoints for this to happen.

It is like the animal is sentient, and thinks something like: "AHA!!!! That smartass ranger is trying too fool me by using his Mask Scent ability!!! I'll teach him a lesson!"

DeltaIX do you mean my bonus to camoflage don't work anymore after I signed up for Ranger?? That can't be right, the skill would list that if it was so. I have never used a Camokit yet, and I am not planning to since it is so hard to get hold of the 4th component.

Being 1 and a half box away from master ranger I am beginning to doubt if choosing Ranger was right? It seems to be so many better things to spend those skillpoints on

Maskscent is borked, and there is plenty of facts. I have 100 ms and kreetles avage a break in every 8-10 i meat. I have had it break in the middle of nowhere on 3 different occurances (once on lok, the other 2 on tat). I did /area track all 3 times and the first tat and lokone there was noting on /area track (i had not run into anything for 15+ mins when it broke, i saw no creatureson lok between stronghold and imp base 2000+ m out, the whole 30+ min run). The time on tat there was one MINOR WORRT with in the 500 m/areatrack at 400 something m. I also just recently went form way 2 to way 3 and have noticed about a 10% increase in breakage. There is somethingwrong, just because you don't see it does not me it does not exist.

Delta,
Are you expecting 10-20% failure rate? Maybe our definition of "working" is different? I get this with MS and Conceal, btw...

Blothgar, maskscent and camouflage (conceal) are separate skills. Maskscent is the scout line while camouflage is the ranger. Currently Bothan bonuses only affect conceal, so without a camo kit, you aren't seeing any.

I finally got ahold of the resources for a camo kit. For me it was working how I envision it. It rarely broke and even hid me from an AT-ST (I'm neutral - oopsie. Too bad that 275 xp is wasted on me). Being able to stand next to non-aggressive thugs I had -5000 faction with and not get attacked was also nice. I could run past low level aggressives and it wouldn't break.

I still have issues with maskscent though. My biggest one being that it should no longer cause an increased chance of aggression.

Guys,

Your camo modifier only works on /conceal.

Maskscent has its own modifier that is called "Mask Scent" and is maxed at Master Scout.

Go read the Scout forums - this issue has been hotly debated.

Fred, yes - 20% is in my opinion, acceptable for a starter profession skill.

I personally think that Maskscent is generally working as intended- there are some quirks, though. The real issue lies with /conceal - it should be working more along the lines of how Maskscent was working after the patch - rarely breaks, long duration. That's where the real issue lies.

B