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Thread: Stealth/camo/conceal
I don't think that would be a problem in this game... I mean EVERYBODY apparently carries around a personal radar. Why not camo... you can see them on radar but not until they are closer... or maybe they just can't see you... they know you are there, but not sure where.
Maybe they could make it so that you could conceal your faction and remain overt... ie.) an overt rebel ranger showing as either an overt/covert Imperial. This is sci-fantasy, and there are ways are to conceal yourself if you can use a laser rifle.
But then, off the subject some here, I think the radar is a little bit of a bad idea... at least right now. Maybe that should be changed so you can only see that something is in the range. You shouldn't be able to tell if that guy over there is aggressive to you or not, just by looking at the radar. But, it does help stay away from those aggressives while running cross-country!
Somebody else mentioned this and I thought it was a great idea: Rangers should be able to make themselves invisible to "radar" ... that way you could actually sneak up on other players (PvP) and have a purpose for an increase low-crawl-speed.
^ ^ ^ ^ Bad idea imho. Classes that have 'invisibility' are generally overpowered. :\ Look at very bad implementations such as DaoC. Invisibility = FotM = later nerfage.
But... I think stealth added to the Ranger line would be a good addition... if done right. It should only be used to set up an opening attack. Make it so the Ranger moves slower (at Master Ranger they can move while stealthed at 'normal' speed), and is 'invisible' at a distance greater than 50m. Once they come into that 50m range they become a visible target.
Another idea would be to allow them to 'stealth', from 100m to 50m, but only while in prone position. Anything over 100m and they are essentially invisible. It isn't enough to overpower the class, but it will make it a much more 'fun' class.
Aeschelus wrote:
Do any of these exist so as to hide oneself from players or are they planned to be put in the game?
To better answer your original question:
Stealth - No and not planned.
Camo - Yes, it exists now. All Rangers get +camo skill as they advance in the Wayfaring tree. This skill helps the /maskscent ability to work better.
Conceal - Removed from the game near the end of beta. Maybe it will be back, maybe not. Unknown at this time.
My understanding was Conceal was removed at end of beta because it was buggy and/or exploitative in very serious ways. Basically Conceal was an advanced form of Mask Scent that also worked on NPCs. It was pretty much a fancy name for Mask Scent 2.
I hope Conceal makes its way back fixed and modified....the Ranger in general needs some content adds and tweaks anyway which I'm sure will come along in time.