Ranger Archive

Thread: What the crap are these people talking about?

Cryos_Merovingian
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:16 am
#14



Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Cryos is right...you can't have your cake and eat it to. The 'exploits' will be fixed before the bugs; it's a fact of SWG life.


You know what though, as I think about it, it's a pretty difficult one to pin down. We barely know what causes it to break or stick and it's NOT 100% foolproof. Now, I'm not a programmer or anything, but I'd bet that it's NOT an easy one for a programmer to pin down and fix. Who knows, maybe that's WHY it's still doing what it does.



___________________________________
CRYOS MEROVINGIAN
Elder Ranger

Calculus_Entropy
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:35 am
#15



Cryos_Merovingian wrote:


Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Cryos is right...you can't have your cake and eat it to. The 'exploits' will be fixed before the bugs; it's a fact of SWG life.


You know what though, as I think about it, it's a pretty difficult one to pin down. We barely know what causes it to break or stick and it's NOT 100% foolproof. Now, I'm not a programmer or anything, but I'd bet that it's NOT an easy one for a programmer to pin down and fix. Who knows, maybe that's WHY it's still doing what it does.


Or maybe they will just disable the trap until they can get around to fixing it! That's my guess for the eventual outcome.



Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.
Owen-Lars
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:37 am
#16

All the trapping bugs where listed in mine and paks last issue report with trapping xp issue being number one on each. Tiggs says the bugs have been reported so nothing much more we can do except push for fixes which isnt going to stop anytime soon.



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
BioEngine
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:59 am
#17






Calculus_Entropy wrote:





Cryos_Merovingian wrote:





Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Cryos is right...you can't have your cake and eat it to. The 'exploits' will be fixed before the bugs; it's a fact of SWG life.




You know what though, as I think about it, it's a pretty difficult one to pin down. We barely know what causes it to break or stick and it's NOT 100% foolproof. Now, I'm not a programmer or anything, but I'd bet that it's NOT an easy one for a programmer to pin down and fix. Who knows, maybe that's WHY it's still doing what it does.




Or maybe they will just disable the trap until they can get around to fixing it! That's my guess for the eventual outcome.




Don't even joke about something like that.



Not cool, dude.





Account active 'till November 10th, contact me on forum name:
Stamina
SioBabble
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:00 am
#18






Rolfie wrote:

Last thing we need is a RED name saying Ooops, swing a nerf bat, and leaving us high and dry for several months to a year.







I mean, it's not like this has never happened before.


Just ask any old time CH about dev promises that the pain you're feeling will all make sense and go away once we've finished "balancing" everyone else.


Right.


As of this moment on TC-Prime and TC-Ahazi, all tamed wild critters are level 1 (0) with a health bar of 10.


People are taking bets on whether this bug goes live with pub 19 or not.


Given that tailor, AS, DE, and BE had profession crippling bugs introduced in pub 18 that STILL have not been addressed in the builds that are live on the TCs, what do you think?








Tazz vonMannstein Baron-Administrator of Corellia, master navigator of Corellia, captain of the Gregarious Gurreck

Sio Babble MBH/MCH/Cabana Boy; master of Tyson, the GNORT OF DEATH

Jeffn Akbar Nerfed from here to Lok MD/MCM

Zanti Agaesia Bothan MBE, 12 point Master Chef, Havoc Squadron Ace pilot


Modru
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:07 am
#19

What I am thinking cannot be put into words. But for some reason I like being a Ranger and will never change it.


I got it!! I must be a glutton for punishment.





Modru--Elder Ranger/Bio-Engineer/Rifleman/Pistoleer
Vidron--Elder Tera Kasi/Swordsman/Doc

HAVOC
Vendor at (917,1083) Naboo

AragornSoS
Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:29 am
#20

I think we all know, and agree, that the current behavior of the pop-tarts is buggy. Has been since the CU beta server, and has been reported and /bugged by many of us from that same CU testing server on forward. It's been in daily bug threads, it's been bugged in game, it's been identified by Paks and Owen to the devs (as it should be). I think there's probably a fine line between "bugged and not exactly working as intended" and "exploit". That 2nd term gets thrown around a LOT when talking about things that are just bugs (or in some cases are actually items put int he game by the devs, then appear to be "overpowering" so the great "Nerf XYZ" cry arises from those who don't like it).


It is also one of the best things going for us at this point in time. Sad, sincea bugged trap is better than just about every other trap and skill we currently have for 140SP. So, enjoy it while it lasts. It WILL get fixed at some point, and then anyone who has no hunting skills or no understanding of decent tactics is going to suddenly be munch munch lunch for a krayt, a kimo, a gorax, or whatever else they're going after. They'll whine about how Ranger just got nerfed (or more likely they'll say it got nurfed, smurfed, or nurved, eh) and then move on to whatever the next FoTM for jebay alts and loot wh0res is going to be. Those of us who play to be a Ranger, and not a FoTM, will remain, as we always have.


I say, use the larger group numbers for, if nothing else, a way to get heard (we are a "growing community!"). I just hope this forum doesn't get swamped with so many respec rangers who are just going for FoTM krayt buster templates that it degenerates. I don't think that'll happen, since we are in some ways one of the last bastions of non-nurfed smart people around.



Dekiion G'Dulth
Colonel | Imperial Sector Rangers
"What others abandon, we protect."

Master Ranger / Master Rifleman / Storm Squadron Ace
QuietBlade
Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:39 am
#21

but see....he wasnt saying I was going to be cited for using poptarts....he didnt know what a poptart was.... he was talking about exploiting using a +5 and a +10 ranged distance arms.....something about how the creature soesnt aggro when you are so far away..... (which I proved wrong as I cracked a juv krayt in the back of the head from 80 meters and it DID aggro me and start charging.) he said his guild leader was banned for using both arms while attacking critters. Does anyone know anything about this?..... The Devs made the arms....we use them....and they are calling it an exploit???anyone? anyone?



Last thing I need is to be banned for using something that was a quest item anyway.....lol. Now it occurs to me that if you are 80 meters out....and using cover.....and improved conceal shot.....u could prob take a krayt down by half before he knows what hit him....lol


May have to try that.....


YEAH...BAN ME FOR USING WHAT LIMITED ABILITIES YOU HAVE GIVEN ME!!!!.....ROFLMAO!








Traddok - Elder CareBear
"Don't Make Me FONG You"
Asrelee - NubStalker
"ohh, you are so nubalicious"
Vendors located on Talus in Boonta Eve
600 -1250(Lowca)

QuietBlade
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:49 pm
#22

Ok, so I am minding my own hunting a krayt (giant) when this guy walks up to me and says....


Him: my guildleader got banned for that."


Me: for what?


Him: for using both cyber arms while attacking creatures.


Me: Huh....what are you talking about?


Him: Something about being able to attack them from so far away that you dont aggro them.


Me: What are you talking about?


Him: Just saying.....


Me: Dude...I am 64 meters from the freagin krayt. I am within rifle range


Him: just trying to warn you.


Me: Warm me about what?.....that krayt is aggroed on me...I am within normal ranged distance.... and even if I were to go 80 meters out (I have a +5 left arm and a +10 right arm.) I am only using what the devs made in the first place.


Him: ........


Me: (i killed the giant)....tell u what,......how about I pop that other giant over there.....he is now 80 meters from me. (Bang).....look at that....here comes the krayt.....(trapped, snared, trapped.....start firing at him.....) Happy now?


Him: just trying to warn you.


Me: WARN ME ABOUT WHAT!!!!!!!!



are the devs trying to keep us from using the very things they made for us????




Traddok - Elder CareBear
"Don't Make Me FONG You"
Asrelee - NubStalker
"ohh, you are so nubalicious"
Vendors located on Talus in Boonta Eve
600 -1250(Lowca)

Page 2 of 2